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[–] BelieveRevolt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Geez, you murder a shitload of people to the point even a prominent Nazi said you went too far, use women from occupied countries as sex slaves, conduct unethical experiments on prisoners, then decades later your ruling far-right party and its weirdo cult member politicians deny any of this ever happened…and everyone thinks remilitarizing your country is bad forever? SMH 🙄

[–] Isotretinoin@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

personal view: the thing with japan is that after ww2 they got heavily disarmed ,they focused only on defensive military . Now ,after the Ukraine war and the problems they face with China(and north Korea) they decide to increase the military budget ,just like everybody else "if my neighbor is buying a gun ,shouldn't I also have one ?" Everybody says that we are at the start of the second cold war ,I tend to belive it .

[–] MercuryUprising@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You can't blame Japan for wanting to D up while China keeps acting belligerently

[–] TomHardy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

But if your neighbour is only buying guns because your “friend” (who hates your nbr) keeps putting his into your place - why should you get your own too? That will only lead to further escalation. Contrary, you should try to actually throw your friends guns out and reason with your neighbour.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On one hand, the upcoming arms race is concerning. On the other hand, Japan IS a part of "Russia is occupying our land" club.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's about Russia at all for Japan. It's about China and their recent escalations in Taiwan, south china sea and east china sea.

The only thing that really has to do with Russia is that they showed the world that near peer wars are still a thing and that China is a potential threat for all East Asia.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

China is not a potential threat for East Asia, China is a potential threat to the US and the US wants to control East Asia and Japan works a checkpoint to keep that region in place.

[–] TomHardy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think actually if USA is serious about a war with China they will only command Taiwan to jump under the bus and declare independence, the actual country that will fight against China like Ukraine against Russia will be Japan (and SK’s Army). Taiwan can be cut off from USAs wunderwaffles supplies by NPLA and its economy is not as strong like that of Japan if they want them to fight until the last Japanese ;) . Also the mental preparation is already there (where in Taiwan they would rather wonder after a while why they should fight other Chinese).

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Saying Japan or SK would fight is a weird way of putting it, since they would be following orders from the US, but I guess I agree with what you say. This scenario is an unwinable one since they also have not been cultivating a strong movement as was the case in Ukraine, where the CIA has bern training units since the Maidan Coup, and also Taiwan being so isolated and so much smaller. Plus China would have Vietnam and NK as allies which would difficult a lot the Japanese and South Korean armies.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a weird way of seeing it. Aside from the fact that a potential invasion of Taiwan from China is a threat to the whole world (you know, chip production and all), China is very much acting like a threat to the whole South and East Asia region. Let's see:

  • Japan: China keeps entering Japan's air space and keeps claiming that the international waters in the East China Sea are theirs, disrupting commerce with Taiwan and other Asian nations.
  • South Korea: China supports North Korea, which means that South Korea is against them full stop, and sees them as an existential threat.
  • Taiwan: no comment
  • Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia: China has been claiming the South China Sea as theirs for last few years, building military bases in these nations' sovereign waters on artificial islands and threatening their commercial activities in the region.

It'd be better if everyone just stays home and stops trying to invade other countries, and that also includes the US and Russia. Just stop, everyone go home, respect each other's waters and territories and trade. This fucking need to build an empire is fucking stupid.

[–] TomHardy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

potential invasion of Taiwan from China

you mfs have been saying for around 30 years that China will invade any second now. Why? They will probably only take actions if the US will deploy some serious weaponry or Taiwan will declare independence (what has implications for the former). The upcoming elections are in January and the US puppet DPP will loose. Why should China take any measures besides waiting, contrary, it will be probably the US who will ignite a color revolution or provoke a war until the elections.

China keeps entering Japan’s air space

Source? Whats the end game here to do that? Threaten one of your largest trading partners?

China supports North Korea, which means that South Korea is against them full stop

Again, any source? You mean more like the US, and the part of SK that is lobbied by the US? SK's largest trading partner is China, and China doesn't have any foreign policies saying they need to "contain" SK, that SK could use some democracy or that they will finance some opposition groups. Same with NK.

Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia: China has been claiming the South China Sea as theirs

This is known, but why is it concerning or a threat? Do you know that Philippines and Malaysia are forced to buy military equipment and hold US bases? Of course there will be some counter actions from China. And you equate the dispute over some maritime territory as an existential threat? Who is actually a threat to who?

Taiwan: no comment

Oh boy, wait until you find out about all the territorial claims (>20) the government of Taiwan has, your tiny beacon of freedom and democracy.

It’d be better if everyone just stays home and stops trying to invade other countries

Yes but people like you enforce US hegemony and presence in other parts of the world.

This fucking need to build an empire is fucking stupid

You probably only say that when non-Western countries try to have firm foreign politics decided by themselves. Also, if you imply that China is an empire, then give me a source. Something formal. Sure you will find some BBC or CNN opinion piece that says China will declare world domination any second now. But it is stupid to equate China's foreign politics with some concepts like the IMF, which gives loans if you privatize company X, remove party Y from upcoming elections, or put this or that person in your government. I don't see that China, together with its uprise, is forcing their ideology onto to other countries.

[–] scurzon@rammy.site 1 points 1 year ago

Fighting a sovereign state decisions about its own military, something a dictator would do

[–] Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

If they want to escape the US military they will need their own military.