I’ve had luck on Glassdoor and I’m likely much less qualified than you
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I'm a new graduate and, fuck me. Programming jobs feel like the unreachable American dream.
Computer related fields are a constantly changing tech stack. People either are constantly growing in their career, or they are falling out of date. That long in the field should either be extremely comfortable, issue with the individual, or lack of drive to be constantly challenged.
The hardest part is the first job. After that should be constant career growth. This observation is only for the US job market.
Hardly. As with most things it depends on location, but in the case of casting such a wide net as "programming jobs" it also depends on what you want to do. While it can be said that "Nobody goes into programming wanting to code Excel" but there are still plenty of just bs open to do stuff like that. You could make a solid life programming just MS Dynamics or Epicor.
Indeed bought out GlassDoor, so I've been using that instead; as well as LinkedIn & whatnot. Market's also apparently more amenable to novices and specialized folks right now, so you're going to have better luck than a lot of us I think!
A couple thoughts for you:
- The current six months is the coolest the IT hiring makret has been this decade.
- I, as a hiring manager, am seeing signs of a "the musical chairs music is ending" tension.
- I suspect we will see a rush to hire IT talent in January, because we experienced IT managers are aware that we will soon once again face a market where most people with the talent we need are happy where they are and tell us "no thank you" to even interviewing. (I buy them lunch to work around this.)
Looking at your experience, it looks good.
As a hiring manager, I would ask you what was different about the job you stayed at for 7 years, vs the many that are less than 18 months.
It's not a deal breaker, but you do have very few tenures that even reach two years.
As a manager, it takes me up to two years to get a staff member to the point of being really valuable to my organization.
I don't have any problem with a large number of short tenures.
But when a resume has mostly tenures under two years, I need to discuss with the candidate whether there's a way I can make a longer stretch of employment (with my team) work for them.
I would expect your resume to land you conversations, so I would encourage you to be prepared to talk about that point. Doesn't need to be a big deal, but some managers are going to want to discuss it.
Thanks for digging into this on your end. Yeah, that 7 year stint was with an outfit wherein I was the constant, and everyone else kept coming & going. The 3 year job, I got canned for an overtime dispute; and they replaced me with two people after. The rest are a mix of layoffs or other reasons for not staying: I'm not one to just "quit". Give me the right org; that's not overly worried about being cheap, or has too many people coming & going; and I'd be happy to stay. Otherwise, I feel like my career has been more or less a "firefighter" vs a "builder" (I had to do both in the 7 year job). I hope that makes some kind of sense?
Makes perfect sense, and that's a good answer when it comes up.
This is an interesting and unexpected take on the near future market. Nice to hear somebody thinks it may start warming up again that soon.
I'm not even really IT but have a educational background in this. I'm an online marketeer and will be in the future. Even in this role I'm in the position where I go to interviews and have to say, no thank you at the moment. So yeah, maybe even before January is where you get to this point. And I'm not even in IT really. Of course this depends on country and market but yeah, you seem to have the right vision here.
I could probably help if you moved to the opposite coast. Lol
How is your career stuck with 20 years of experience? Are you being picky? You must be getting spammed on linkedin.
By fake recruiters and spam for PMP training...
I'll have a look! Thanks!
Good luck!
I got on Hired; the other three seem to be more for full-time devs (I've done dev work in support of my jobs, but not as a job in itself).