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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fun fact, there are people that think Texas is the best state in the world.

[–] Weslee@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing they are probably from Texas and have never been anywhere else

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The worst part is, they do go to other places. Then they compare them with Texas and talk about how much worse they are.

[–] krotti@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, not an American, but it seems to be quite the consensus that Texas has their way of living much better than anywhere else.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"This Trevi Fountain is purty, but we got better fountains in Texas!"

Nationalism on a state level

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

There are also americans who think america is the best country in the world

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same with Americans in general.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think Americans outside of Texas think it's the beat state.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, Americans think America is the best country.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know any Americans that say that.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last time I was there, it was hot and miserable. Everyone was super far away with long stretches of highway to get anywhere.

The food was good though.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and Dallas is just one massive strip mall. I don't know why people like Texas so much. I get dystopian vibes when I'm there.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Whole town is a pig farm

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No surprise, it's in East Texas.

[–] al177@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would have expected Carl's Corner or Italy.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If I didn't know it has a larger population, I would have said Los Fresnos.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Well its nice they have each other for support after such a traumatic and humiliating experience.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Coffee City used to be on the border of a dry county (that county is no longer dry since a couple of years ago).

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

How bad of a cop do you need to be to be demoted for what you did holy shit

[–] Captnkrk69@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Texas.... nothing else needs said.