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Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized Elon Musk after he made a gesture during Trump’s inauguration resembling a Nazi salute.

Musk and his allies dismissed the comparison, calling such accusations exaggerated.

Ocasio-Cortez, however, called the gesture unacceptable, emphasizing America’s history of opposing Nazis and the Confederacy.

She also condemned the Anti-Defamation League for defending Musk, accusing it of losing credibility.

Her comments sparked broader debate on symbols, gestures, and their implications amid Trump’s return to office.

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[–] Domino@lemmings.world 4 points 1 hour ago
[–] JB33@lemmy.world 0 points 29 minutes ago

Ohh, sick rip bruh, he'll never recover from that!

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 hours ago

Are you sure about that?

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago

Well yeah but AOC has darker skin, therefore dirty immigrant. Elon Musk of course is lighter and has more money so he's a trueborn American and his opinion matters.

Just don't look up where either of those people were born.

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

Bioshock Infinite vibes.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

That was before WW2, no less. Funny how after all that happened, people saw that and went, "Yeah that was a good idea."

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You really don't seem to though

[–] loulan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Americans have zero excuse. You could argue that Germany was ruined by WW1 and the war reparations back in the 30s. But the US economy is doing much better than all other developed economies these days. Americans voted fascists in just because.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

Our top line numbers may look good but there's real problems under the hood. Our homelessness is the highest it's been since we started tracking it and food has increased in price much farther than most people's wages. It's not about the gross amount of money. It's about what that money can buy. And the answer is increasingly, not much.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

WW II was probably the best thing to happen to America, economically and in a lot of other fields, science and tech for example.

The world wouldn't have half of the technology we have today if it wasn't for America figuring all this shit out during and after that war.

And America got to keep everything, unlike some other countries. There really is no excuse.

Boomers are called that for a reason. Families not only boomed, but most parts of life as well.

(Note Im not advocating for war, Im looking at history)

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

Because capitalism has ensured that the "good economy" isn't reaching the average working class person like it should.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 18 hours ago

Madam President 🖤

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 101 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

AOC, you personally might hate Nazis, but your country voted them into the White House, the congress, and the Senate. I wish you the best to fight the scum, like real Americans did 80 years ago.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

She's not here to hear you. Send that as an email/voicemail so she knows what you want to say.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 13 hours ago

The ones who don't aren't our countrymen and I look forward to the day enough of us recognize it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but when my grandfather did it he had an M1

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 15 hours ago

My grandfather was in the Navy on the pacific theater. Japanese fascists, German fascists, Italian fascists, all died the same way.

[–] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (6 children)

National identity is imaginary, powerful and useful. What she's choosing to claim with hers is badass. It's brash, in-your-face, heroic. Anti-apathy. And our world needs tonnes more of it.

As an activist irl, and someone targeted daily by nazis for years, AOC has no illusions about the current state of fash in the USofA, nor the history and current state of slavery and genocide in the world. Nazis (and other misogynists) will tell you she's ignorant and deluded, but you know she's not. She's manifesting, and the irony is lovely.

If you want to live in the country she does - against all the opposition activists for the common good constantly face - claim it as she claims it. Go find your allies irl and stop letting powerful men tell you there's no point trying anything. Your enemy says you're not a real person, but a thing God put on earth for them to use or destroy.

Tough love: Hope is hard work. Apathy is an easy trap that flatters your intelligence while it kills your spirit. Trust yourself and make a choice: who is your enemy and how are you going to treat them?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Extremely well said.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In This Country, We Hate Nazis

Lol! No they don't.

The US has always loved fascism. It's the only one of two political ideologies it endorses.

[–] mcdutchie@r.nf 29 points 22 hours ago

Nazism is almost an American export, even. See, for example, How the Nazis were inspired by Jim Crow.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 25 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

We love nazis so much we saved half of them after WW2 and brought them back home.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Damn straight. Every US WW II rolled in their grave twice when the sack of shit "Leon Hitler" went on stage. AOC, find a way to fix the Democratic party.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (25 children)

We used to kill Nazis.

Now we cheer them, shrug them off, or make excuses for them.

This nation is pathetic.

I wonder how many conservative's ancestors fought the Nazis and now they're voting for Nazis.

Hey 2A enthusiasts. This is the moment you've been saying you need your guns for your entire pathetic lives. Where you at?

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Kill Nazis. Kill Nazi CEOs twice.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 263 points 1 day ago (16 children)

If she's the only one in office that's willing to say anything about this, we're in a lot more trouble than we thought.

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[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 148 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It didn’t resemble a Nazi salute. It was a Nazi salute.

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