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Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized Elon Musk after he made a gesture during Trump’s inauguration resembling a Nazi salute.

Musk and his allies dismissed the comparison, calling such accusations exaggerated.

Ocasio-Cortez, however, called the gesture unacceptable, emphasizing America’s history of opposing Nazis and the Confederacy.

She also condemned the Anti-Defamation League for defending Musk, accusing it of losing credibility.

Her comments sparked broader debate on symbols, gestures, and their implications amid Trump’s return to office.

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Well yeah but AOC has darker skin, therefore dirty immigrant. Elon Musk of course is lighter and has more money so he's a trueborn American and his opinion matters.

Just don't look up where either of those people were born.

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 11 minutes ago

Bioshock Infinite vibes.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

That was before WW2, no less. Funny how after all that happened, people saw that and went, "Yeah that was a good idea."

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You really don't seem to though

[–] loulan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Americans have zero excuse. You could argue that Germany was ruined by WW1 and the war reparations back in the 30s. But the US economy is doing much better than all other developed economies these days. Americans voted fascists in just because.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 15 hours ago

Madam President 🖤

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 91 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

AOC, you personally might hate Nazis, but your country voted them into the White House, the congress, and the Senate. I wish you the best to fight the scum, like real Americans did 80 years ago.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 10 hours ago

The ones who don't aren't our countrymen and I look forward to the day enough of us recognize it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but when my grandfather did it he had an M1

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 12 hours ago

My grandfather was in the Navy on the pacific theater. Japanese fascists, German fascists, Italian fascists, all died the same way.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

In This Country, We Hate Nazis

Lol! No they don't.

The US has always loved fascism. It's the only one of two political ideologies it endorses.

[–] mcdutchie@r.nf 27 points 19 hours ago

Nazism is almost an American export, even. See, for example, How the Nazis were inspired by Jim Crow.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

We love nazis so much we saved half of them after WW2 and brought them back home.

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[–] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 74 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

National identity is imaginary, powerful and useful. What she's choosing to claim with hers is badass. It's brash, in-your-face, heroic. Anti-apathy. And our world needs tonnes more of it.

As an activist irl, and someone targeted daily by nazis for years, AOC has no illusions about the current state of fash in the USofA, nor the history and current state of slavery and genocide in the world. Nazis (and other misogynists) will tell you she's ignorant and deluded, but you know she's not. She's manifesting, and the irony is lovely.

If you want to live in the country she does - against all the opposition activists for the common good constantly face - claim it as she claims it. Go find your allies irl and stop letting powerful men tell you there's no point trying anything. Your enemy says you're not a real person, but a thing God put on earth for them to use or destroy.

Tough love: Hope is hard work. Apathy is an easy trap that flatters your intelligence while it kills your spirit. Trust yourself and make a choice: who is your enemy and how are you going to treat them?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Extremely well said.

[–] Anahkiasen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 18 hours ago

Thank you, this comment section has some of this cynisim already. Yes she's saying very eviden things but the other side is winning precisely by creating a culture of fear and overwhelming toxicity and locking you in echo chambers that eat at you by making you think their normal is The normal. It's not lying than to project what you want into the world until enough people are in on it and pressure bad elements into hiding or into changing path.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I heard an interview with the sci-fi author Kim Stanley Robinson, and he said something that I love: "pessimism is almost a dereliction of duty."

If we want the world to be a better place, we have to make it a better place.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago

Damn straight. Every US WW II rolled in their grave twice when the sack of shit "Leon Hitler" went on stage. AOC, find a way to fix the Democratic party.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (25 children)

We used to kill Nazis.

Now we cheer them, shrug them off, or make excuses for them.

This nation is pathetic.

I wonder how many conservative's ancestors fought the Nazis and now they're voting for Nazis.

Hey 2A enthusiasts. This is the moment you've been saying you need your guns for your entire pathetic lives. Where you at?

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Kill Nazis. Kill Nazi CEOs twice.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 257 points 1 day ago (16 children)

If she's the only one in office that's willing to say anything about this, we're in a lot more trouble than we thought.

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[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 144 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It didn’t resemble a Nazi salute. It was a Nazi salute.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yup. Twice in a row. Exactly as the Nazis did it.

Stand to attention facing the crowd. Hand to chest, then full extension. Turn around to face the Fuhrer, or if he isn't there, the Nazi flag. Then stand to attention and sieg heil again.

He did it. It's not debatable. Don't engage in debate with bad actors attempting to rewrite this history. The richest man in the world, who will act in an official capacity in the White House, is openly a Nazi. Because you are a Nazi if you perform a Nazi salute.

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[–] BadJojo@communick.news 92 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Do we though? Do we really, truly, hate Nazis? The evidence so far is not that conclusive.

I hate Nazis, but I don't think the country as a whole hates Nazis.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 116 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Behold the one prominent US politician with any principles.

And for that she will never be allowed near any real power...

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 20 hours ago

Most based AOC, I wonder if the hate-thirsting over her will begin again now that she's becoming such a needed voice in these trying times.

Only asking because the memes about Ben Shapiro wnating her feet pics were funny as hell.

But seriously, can it actually not? I low-key hated all the "Let's just tell dumb blonde jokes with AOC instead of the dumb blonde." memes, cause it's like.. when we call Trump dumb, we can point to shit he actually did (like turn every American into a woman because he's too transphobic to know how to read), we aren't just saying it to say it.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a gesture (..) resembling a Nazi salute

Fuck off with that shitlib overcautiousness, HuffPo! The only way it could have been any more obviously a Nazi salute would have been if he had screamed "sieg heil!" while doing it!

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