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Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum criticized Donald Trump's executive order to label drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, emphasizing Mexico’s sovereignty and rejecting U.S. military intervention.

Trump’s order, part of broader measures on border security, could allow asset seizures and sanctions against cartels but faces skepticism for its effectiveness.

Experts warn it may complicate asylum claims, as migrants paying cartels for passage could face disqualification.

Critics see the move as political posturing, while some victims’ families hope the designation will bring justice and highlight Mexico’s cartel violence.

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[–] hooferboof@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

From the wording of the executive order its clear that the intent is drug cartels however since the language is so broad wouldn't any organization that's international and involved in price fixing or other cartel behavior have a grounds to be labeled as a terrorist organization? Like realpage?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

Trump is giving us all a bone. Let's chew on it real good. If I knew of any such terrorists in Mexico, I would totally love to see them meet US ordinance. Give them a middle finger for us all. Kind of unfortunately the militants tend to be poor people who are compelled by some abusive entity to do their bidding.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Is there any legitimate argument that cartels aren't terrorists? They seem to have successfully terrorized the local population in to compliance. They run militias and have military equipment.

I swear I've seen this movie before. It was based on some book by a guy named Tom... /s

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago

Experts warn it may complicate asylum claims, as migrants paying cartels for passage could face disqualification.

That sounds like a win-win for the Führer.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only if they follow up by shutting down gun stores because they're aiding and abetting terrorist organizations by knowingly selling ridiculous amounts of arms that ultimately wind up in terrorist cartel hands.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US authorities didn't even bother prosecuting specific individuals from HSBC's US branch involved in money laundering for cartels, HSBC's US branch only had to pay a fine.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 12 points 1 day ago

To be fair, $1.9 billion + $665 million in civil penalties is a good sized fine for laundering $881 million (that the Feds know of).

I'm sure HSBC won't make that mistake again, unless the profit motive overrides the risk again.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

do you mean the amount of american guns going over the border?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone laying odds for how long it’ll take for Trump to decide to invade Mexico? I’d give it two quarters, max.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Predicting he'll call Mexico an "American protectorate" or some other bullshit before/during/after he invades.

[–] Quill7513 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it won't be an invasion.

it will be a special military operation.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

3 days in and out, just like Ukraine.

It's going to be a shit show when the next president takes over and has to get us out of conflicts with all of our neighbors. I suspect in the end we'll end up losing territory rather than gaining any, and we'll be sanctioned to hell by the rest of the world and paying reparations out the ass for generations.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Honestly... Can I be part of the territory that the US loses please? Thx

[–] Quill7513 1 points 3 hours ago

i hope France, Denmark, Poland, and Ukraine are responsible leaders of the free world

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Special Freedom Operation.

I mean it only makes sense to own the land with shores on the gulf of America.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Mexico becomes part of the US at least we'll get rid of a lot of the immigration controversy, right? Right?!

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

Precisely in the way that electing Trump will stop the Palestinian genocide.

Can EU just declare maga as terrorist, then invade us to liberate us?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Very clever. Very very clever. Labelling them as terrorists gives the US the grounds for invading a country, as it has done before. As Russia did with Ukraine by claiming it's infested with nazis.

Unfortunately it's not clever enough, as some regular dude like me can see right through it. But I guess being more clever is not necessary anymore.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago

If your country has anyone in it that the US has decided to call "terrorists," better start massing troops.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump’s order, part of broader measures on border security, could allow asset seizures and sanctions against cartels

In foreign borders?

[–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You make it sound like they haven't done this before.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I thought (hoped) they do get smarter. Everywhere USA interfered is now a mess.

And with Trump wanting to concentrate more on domestic things... weird that they (conservative leaders) then always want to increase their borders, despite already not being able to maintain the areas they have.