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'Choose' rhymes with 'lose'? I mean c'mon, someone did that shit on purpose πŸ‘€

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

english is a very silly language that's evolved so you can do almost anything with it

it's a risky strat but it seems to have worked

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

May as well combine words with the same pronunciation into one word and call it Simplified English (/s)

Honestly tho, this is one of the features of Simplified Chinese, which created the infamous "fuck vegetables" (干菜类).

It's meant to say "dried vegetables" (乾菜鑞 in TC), but δΉΎβ†’εΉ². Meanwhile, there exists εΉΉβ†’εΉ² as well, which means "fuck".

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's a miracle I know it, and having to teach someone how to read and spell was an eye opener for me trying to explain "this is like this except for this one word because... Reasons and sometimes there's a variation like this because...reasons" so many times.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 16 minutes ago

Agreed, I am teaching my second son to read.

I am having the same conversations as when I taught my first to read.

"ok, this word is a 'sight word' because it doesn't make the sounds you expect. It says won, but it looks like it says on-e"

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

The bigger problem is that lose should rhyme with pose or close. Loose is fine.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Don't get me started on ough and ead.

The lead soldier kneaded dough in the bough brush while they read the book that they previously read while taking a furlough in the rough.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

I barely started reading and i hate this already.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Didn’t even have to click. Great poem

I read this and all I could think of was "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo"

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Hoes drop their clothes.

Who the hell decided that close is pronounced the same as clothes?

They sound pretty close to me. We can close this issue.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (22 children)

No one? They aren't pronounced the same in any accent that I'm aware of.

Edit: I'm dumb. I was reading that as the "nearby" close and not the "shut " close.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 5 hours ago

I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to the differences between accents/dialects but it's at least enough of a thing to be there in dictionaries.

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[–] SandLight@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know that they sound that different, but I definitely "pronounce" them differently in that my tongue is in a different party of my mouth for both of them. When I say clothes, my tongue is near touching my front teeth, where as close is more just below that ridge behind my teeth, so farther back.

I'm from the center of the U.S. for reference.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I had half my jaw ripped open when I was 16 or so. So I guess I'm lucky to pronounce or enunciate anything correctly these days.

Southern Mississippi, if that means squat.

Yeah Mississippi will do that to you.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Okay as a non-native speaker who struggles with consonant clusters this is both the best and worst thing I learned today.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Hey we may have our language rules pulled from 30 different other languages and applied seemingly at random, but at least we don't have to memorize the gender of every inanimate object in the world!

I've taken 5 years of German and self studied some Russian and Spanish, and goddamn that gendered noun shit is really, really hard for native English speakers.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago

Okay you got me there. Also for what it's worth, gendered nouns are hard even when you natively speak a language with gendered nouns. Source: Am an Arabic speaker and will Jihad anyone who says a chair is female.

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[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

they are very different in my mind. perhaps because i first came across them in their respective contexts through reading.

even when speaking, to me, lose rhymes with booze and loose rhymes with goose.

this has never been a problem for me, personally.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And here's me, another non-native speaker, just learning that booze doesn't rhyme with goose.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

oh, no, no, no! booze and a goose should never go together!

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There's ~~too~~ ~~to~~ two different ways to pronounce and spell many words.

Fuck, that's three!

[–] AnAustralianPhotographer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Steady up over ~~their~~ ~~they're~~ there.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Don't phuck with my head, I'm two drunk!

[–] db2@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

They didn't, except among the ignorant and autocorrect.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

If we start now, we can probably switch the pronunciations of Aristotle and chipotle within a generation.

Chip-ot-el

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What about the words that are only different in tone.

Content and content

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It is read like lead, not read like lead.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Or lede for that matter

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Trust me, it is equally frustrating for most Americans...or almost, anyway.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 5 hours ago

Okay TIL that these aren't pronounced the same.

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