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[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Nato without USA is still bigger military than Russia.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (16 children)

But with a fraction of the nukes, which is the actual big stick part of NATO

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

In the game of nukes you don’t really need many.

You can destroy the world just so many times.

The rest is just for showing who has it bigger (the arsenal)

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 184 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

I mean if Europe wants to increase their military funding and move items in house I think that would be a wonderful idea. Because America is not a reliable partner in this at all in the past two decades.

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[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

Love the implication that the shitty imperialist anglo organization was ever credible.

[–] vordalack@lemm.ee -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Good.

NATO is a trash organization. It's basically Reich Lite.

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[–] amlor@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (11 children)

It will just be renamed to No America Treaty Organization

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[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago

I think that’s unlikely.

But I also thought Trump winning was unlikely,

So what do I know?

[–] MrMakabar 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hopefully the EU takes over. It has a lot more economic strength then NATO. Also the UK is strong as well, but that can be managed. Turkey does its own things anyway and I would not trust them. Norway and Iceland are not that important. Canada is going to go with the US anyway. The advantage is easier common funding for projects, due to the EU having more direct access to money. There are also a lot of the basics in the works already.

Norway and Iceland are crucial to European defense - what are you talking about?

[–] brealorg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah, what is your reasoning behind that statement about Norway and Iceland?

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