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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thats the trick ain't it? This whole thing would fix itself if we would leave everything alone. We won't.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There’s just too many of us to support this level of greed and inequality.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's not about the amount of people when the top 10 own like 40% of everything.

But yeah, your sentence is still correct; the level of greed just comes from a tiny minority of people.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is about the amount of people, at this level of greed. Everyone wants a house in the suburbs.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

No, not everyone does.

Besides, we could probably utilise a lot of area sustainably to increase suburbs, worldwide, if we didn't live in this wageslave bullshit where only the top hogs all the money while not giving a fuck about sustainability or employee well being.

Is inequality actually the problem when it comes to carbon? Just as a thought exercise, if everyone on earth, or even within each county, received an equal share of GDP, I suspect emissions may increase. You'd replace the private jets with more of everything else. Inequality is a major issue for a host of other reasons though, absolutely.

[–] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

At what point during "leaving it alone" does the profit happen?

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 8 points 3 days ago

There really needs to be a global fund that every country pays into, that's dispersed to countries with significant forestation in proportion to their contribution. If money is the barrier to climate action, we need to make it the best option economically to maintain forests and other similar areas.

[–] keepthepace 3 points 3 days ago

Thing is, it is possible to make it profitable. Trees fixating carbon produce wood. Cut trees, sell wood. New wood grows. Repeat. The more wood we use in construction, furniture, paper, the more carbon is removed from the atmosphere.

[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Narrator: They did not leave it alone.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And this is what happened to the Earth.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

O Foruna plays

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bet we won’t though