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An old and powerful force has entered the fraught debate over generative AI in schools: litigious parents angry that their child may not be accepted into a prestigious university.
The tabloids are gonna be going nuts over this.
I don’t go here but seeing these two posts come up within an hour on lobsters feels telling
https://devenv.sh/blog/2024/10/22/devenv-is-switching-nix-implementation-to-tvix/
https://determinate.systems/posts/announcing-determinate-nix/
the Determinate Nix move was such an obvious next step I was convinced they had already done it; I guess they can let the mask fall off now that they’ve consolidated their control over the community. as was pointed out on mastodon, Determinate Systems previously promised this wasn’t their goal, which goes to show how much a promise from a fascist is worth.
fortunately it seems like Lix has a NixOS fork on the horizon? I only know about it because the “just fork it or shut up” assholes are now complaining that a fork’s happening (which they seem to only know about by obsessively monitoring Lix’s git forge — I don’t think there’s been an announcement yet)
I do hope Lix sticks around and flourishes
I hope so too! I like their approach so far, and a NixOS fork by the same folks seems like something I’d switch to as soon as I reasonably could
In other news, there's been a statement on AI training that's racked up over 10k signatures, which is unsurprisingly lambasting the rampant stealing that went into creating the autoplag machines:
Now, I'm way too much of a fan of sidenotes, so I'll whip one out:
Beyond simple content theft being publicly lambasted, I suspect that even licensed use of artists' work for gen-AI will ignite some controversy - if Eagan Tilghman's run-in with controversy last year is any indication, any usage of gen-AI, regardless of context, will be met with hostility.
When I hear about tech companies going all in on AI as a hedge against the future, I'm reminded of this scene from Ice Age:
guest star of recent sneers kache is at it again
Update: The QRTs are mainly sneering, but this one's particularly good
EDIT: Against my better judgment, I'm letting another sidenote come out:
If you wanna encourage people to drop the master/slave naming scheme, this guy probably gave you a good bit of ammo. Changing a random naming scheme is a pretty low-priority task under most circumstances, but it gets a lot more tempting when it lets you distance yourself from people like this
I found the git master branch naming controversy a bit misguided, since to my mind the analogy was more "master copy" or "master recording" than "master of a slave". This isn't IDE. Who names their VCS branch "slave"?
Well, I guess that guy does.
the thing is that the git branch naming was only one of the places among many where this was changed, and in many databases (and often other server-subsystem architectures) master/slave terminology was quite present. iirc there are still some that stick by it today (mostly out of direct choice by project maintainers)
it’s the same thing as whitelist/blacklist, vs allowlist/denylist (or others) - when there’s bad shit linked in baggage, and the cost of changing it (by habit and choice) isn’t all that much, there’s not really any reason to hold by the the old loaded shit
harm reduction comes in many forms
Yeah. I remember when the company I used to work for switched our style guide to allowlist/denylist and apart from That One Guy the overall reaction was a big "eh? sure, whatever". Nobody is out here pretending that this kind of change is going to completely end racism or even that it's going to have a major impact, but past a certain point continuing to casually throw the memory of chattel slavery around is just cringe.
Note that I was specifically talking about branch names in Git, where it's debatable if the default name "master" even originated from the master/slave nomenclature.
The problematic nature of the term is a lot more evident in other contexts where a counterpart of the "master" is in fact called a "slave". Whether that's reason enough to change the names in any particular instance is not something I'll comment on.
I found the git master branch naming controversy a bit misguided, since to my mind the analogy was more “master copy” or “master recording” than “master of a slave”. This isn’t IDE. Who names their VCS branch “slave”?
In a better world, this would've probably been a solid argument for letting the master/slave naming convention stick around. We don't live in a better world.
This guy would be a lot happier if someone had given him a pound of weed when he was 12 then introduced him to college football fandom.
Dude is about 3 years too late but I guess it's always 8 o'clock in the outrage store.
For reference, HN went wild on this submission from a pretty obvious 4chan troll (the self-described "Black developer" just so happened to include references to a Stormfront post (since removed)):
just imagine the kinda thinking that goes into even "I can make this post for fun, that'll be a gas"
This is both old news and kinda… not that surprising when you think about it, but I searched and didn’t see any commentary on this here.
poor Musky lost custody. Couldn’t handle Grimes, now he mangles rhymes.
just imagining what happens the day his companies get taken away from him
We're gonna have enough material for a Elon diss track at this rate
"Life, it never die
Women are my favorite guy."
Wonder what is up with the folks and them getting into rhymes/poetry. Jordan B Peterson does something simple (his pinned tweet as example here. But we know he fried parts of his brain using the russian coma rehab method.
And it isn't even the Sinterklaas period yet. No need for bad rhymes. (I'm also suddenly reminded of all the people who tried to 'rap' their messages in the late 90s).
Well my name is Jordan and I’m here to say/ we’re just like lobsters in a major way
"cooked, and (politically) red as fuck"?
Religion is the opium of the masses
And I'm increasingly scared they're gonna kick our asses
Maybe it's time for all those mugs
To shut up and start hitting drugs
I can pull finer bars out my arse than this fucking farce
This is probably Grok - creativity from him's pretty sparse
Choom thinks he's DOOM, but he won't beat him any time soon
With how much crack this whack goes through, he'll forget this before noon
(I'm no MF DOOM, but anything I can put out will beat this artless twat any day)
Penguin Random House (PRH) has amended its copyright wording across all imprints globally, confirming it will appear “in imprint pages across our markets”. The new wording states: “No part of this book may be used or reproduced in any manner for the purpose of training artificial intelligence technologies or systems”, and will be included in all new titles and any backlist titles that are reprinted.
Now that the content mafia has realized GenAI isn't gonna let them get rid of all the expensive and troublesome human talent. it's time to give Big AI a wedgie.
It's weird how rarely I see people point this, but in theory this kind of boilerplate should be technically meaningless. If copyright protections include the privilege to use the work for training a machine learning algorithm, you need explicit permission anyway. OTOH if it's fair use or otherwise not something copyright law is concerned with, the copyright holder's objection doesn't matter.
For the record, I think AI models are derivative works and thus they're not only infringing on typical "all rights reserved" works, but also things such as Free software whose license terms require attribution if used in derivative work, and especially share-alike copyleft licensed work.
I thinkt it's pretty well-lknown that Spotify got all its initial music from Oink. They moved fast, got dominant, and were able to present the record labels with a big audience prepared to pay for streaming music. The labels quickly ensured they'd get the lion's share of that revenue.
OpenAI and friends tried the same thing - scrape everything, build AGI, reap the rewards. Except it didn't work, and they're in a much worse position morally. Even if they can get a judgement that what they're doing is legal, it will cost them a lot in litigation fees, coupled with the public perception that these culture vampires are ripping off the poor honest author. Not a good place to be in.
Now that the content mafia has realized GenAI isn’t gonna let them get rid of all the expensive and troublesome human talent. it’s time to give Big AI a wedgie.
Considering the massive(ly inflated) valuations running around Big AI and the massive amounts of stolen work that powers the likes of CrAIyon, ChatGPT, DALL-E and others, I suspect the content mafia is likely gonna try and squeeze every last red cent they can out of the AI industry.
At some point, something is going to reveal that all the money in AI has gone into power costs for datacenters and NVidia chips and that the AI companies themselves aren't doing so hot. I hope it's the discovery process for some of the inevitable lawsuits.
it's pretty publicly known
the VCs are gonna take one heckuva bath
All nonfiction writers can end up writing incorrect or controversial things, but why does every Gladwell book push half-formed and inaccurate theories? For years, my loose feeling about Gladwell was that he writes like someone who doesn’t care about being correct, which is not a way I would describe any other author I've encountered. There is something uniquely odd about his work.
Update on the state of AI drug discovery companies: AI Does Not Make It Easy by Derek Lowe
lmao incredible
Then there's BenevolentAI. I first wrote about them in 2018, as the company stated that it had "created a bioscience machine brain, purpose-built to discover new medicines and cures for disease." How's the machine brain doing these days? Well, the company's lead program failed in the clinic last year, and in April announced major layoffs.
just who buys this shit? this reads like refined crypto nonsense
People who don't get much tech/overdose on hype and heard of alphafold. Imagine how much worse things could be now after the Nobel.
i mean how many these people are out there that also have money of this kind, other than softbank i mean
Given the past several decades of trickle-up economics, I think we haven't seen anything close to the bottom of the well of basically-idle capital seeking unrealistic returns.
I'd go so far as to say that the current crop of bubbles possibly represents the greatest downards wealth transfer (albeit from billionaires to millionaires rather than, y'know, working people) since the second world war, but I haven't done anything near the amount of research necessary for that to be more than exciting rhetoric.