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[–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 94 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course they are. The more they get to know their classmates the less ignorant they become and hence the less weird behaviors they exhibit.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Eh. Males on their own don't tend to exhibit that behavior. It's less ignorance and more ape like competitiveness. When you put them together the testosterone compounds and leads to machismo, which results in a bunch of dumb shit.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This argument is saturated in assumptions and is difficult to swallow.

The idea of lack of close physical contact promoting bad behaviour is a well studied phenomenon in many areas, including road rage, and online discourse.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

So I actually read the article — you should try it some time — and it literally states males exhibit this behavior due to competitiveness.

So no, my argument is not saturated in assumptions. It's saturated in experience, and backed by science.

[–] StopJoiningWars@discuss.online -2 points 2 months ago

Turns out your argument was saturated in assumptions and theirs followed the article. Funny how you got real quiet after that, bozo.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

There are studies of men growing up with sisters are more likely to act in a woman's best interest, than the stereotypical macho douchebag persona

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

When you put them together the testosterone compounds and leads to machismo, which results in a bunch of ~~dumb~~ fun shit.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

After a quick read of the article, it's not measuring how matcho they are, but how competitive they are. Even that is by proxy. Men who have lived with more men will tend towards a game of skill for a larger payout, over a fixed payout.

I personally consider the risk management of being competitive to be an extremely important life skill. Knowing your capabilities requires practise and comparison. Men also tend to change their behaviour patterns when a women is present, particularlyyounger men. "Machoism" is often just our tribal bonding instincts kicking in. It let's young men learn the limits of their own capabilities and the capabilities and temperament of these they are working closely with.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Testosterone spikes inhibit risk assessment. Testosterone spikes based on social circumstance rather than the time of day. When there are smaller males/females around you can dominate, testosterone spikes. When the other males are bigger, stronger and more aggressive, testosterone doesn't spike. Making you avoid conflict instead.

A lack of risk assessment, along with increased impulsivity, is a feature. Useful to get males to initiate fighting.

[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reducing human behavior to a single hormone is a choice that is not very representative of reality.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I never said that. It's only a factor.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Testosterone has complex effects. It is also one of the few hormones that significantly changes in the male brain. Learning to both control and utilise its effects is critical to the proper development of a man.

Testosterone changes your risk assessments, rather than jamming them. Uncontrolled, it can be problematic. It takes practice and training to channel that in productive directions. Without that practice, it's effects are either bottled up (with a tendency to explode) or lead to fighting, or crude domineering. Neither is healthy.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

K. I'd rather be less macho and more getting laid. Bonus points for pegging.