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[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 267 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 118 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Now go spend 32 hours cutting the corners off every piece of paper on the ship.

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[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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Small edit for you

~~serves and~~ protects ~~the people~~ property and the value associated with that property

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait, which is meant to be serving and protecting the people? Because it isn't the police, and I don't think it's the military.. 🤔

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think in theory the police are meant to. But the 'theory' part of that sentence is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Only it was never the theory either, the police has always been the violent enforcer of the state towards its own population.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The National Guard protects and serves quite a bit after natural disasters. Maybe it's referring to that?

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 63 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Alex Jones fixated on Posse Comitatus at the tail end of W's second term and Obama's first term, melding it with the idea that FEMA was ready to incarcerate millions of Americans in concentration camps after taking away hundreds of millions of guns, and turn cities into walled off, controlled ingress/egress zones akin to a prequel to Escape From New York.

And now here we are a decade+ after that, with him having been on the ground for and whipping people into an actual insurrection, supporting a fascist who seems to want to actually do things approaching fairly close to his fever dreams of years past, invoking what was once a huge piece of his 'plan for total enslavement' or whatever he called it.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, Alex Jones was actually right on some of the weirdo extremist things he was claiming being planned, it's just that he was part of those plans to begin with.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Once again, it was all projection.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago

He already did this in Portland once:https://journals.library.columbia.edu/index.php/bioethics/article/view/6765

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago
[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Time to turn Trump loose in the retirement home.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

As [New York Times] wrote, during his one term, the former president argued on multiple occasions to deploy military personnel to shut down protests and take control of the border. During a second term, he is not expected to have advisors pushing back.

The report notes, " ... as he has sought a return to power, he has made clear that he intends to use the military for a range of domestic law enforcement purposes," adding, "During his time out of power, allies of Mr. Trump have worked on policy papers to provide legal justifications for the former president’s intent to use the military to enforce the law domestically."

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The "if" of his election fades more everytime he speaks

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Just don't get complacent. Vote. Help others vote. Drag them to the voting place if you need to. Promise them cake. Whatever it takes.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Done and doner

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

We really need to make voting day a federal holiday. Give people paid time off of work so that they can go vote.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I still maintain that my right to arms should include a Javelin and assortment of anti-aircraft armaments.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 11 points 2 months ago

And a few grenades.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (7 children)

National guard maybe but the main military branches of the US cannot be used under posse comitatus, right?

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm willing to bet he'd just call it an "official act of the president" for legal immunity and the supreme court would back him up with a 6-3 split.

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[–] ours@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

With the Supreme Court in his pocket, laws are more like guidelines anyway.

Or he'll probably be able to find a few MAGA-friendly generals (shudders) and start a nice little coup/civil war taking the US well into the banana republic territory and ask any opposition to this move to stop him: "you and what army?".

But things are looking good for him to lose badly (please vote sensible Americans) before drifting away as he keeps losing his mind. Some MAGA idiots will probably try something extremely dumb but hopefully too disorganized and half-hearted to lead to anything serious except getting arrested/shot by law enforcement.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not legally but when has that stopped him?

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

When listening to american generals speak they are usually wise men who know a lot about a lot, including the constitution, racism, dictators and such. Maybe it's the optimist in me, but I have a hard time believing they would follow Trump down that path.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It is every soldiers duty to defy illegal orders.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

So now that NYT has taken the gloves off for trump, I guess it's even more clear that all that soft pedaling before was just because they wanted Biden out. 🤔

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