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[–] Gargari@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Such a gorgeous answer 🀌🀌🀌

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[–] WithaC@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Proton. It replaced PIA for me when it was introduced. Since I was already paying for Proton mail, there was no reason to keep paying for a separate VPN as well.

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reasonable decision. Proton is good for privacy πŸ™‚

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[–] trussrod@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The answers are always going to be Mullvad, IVPN or Proton VPN. Windscribe is also a possibility.

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mullvad VPN paid with Monero and NextDNS paid version.

[–] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why NextDNS if you already query DNS through Mullvad?

Because I prefer the granular control that I have over my queries when I'm using NextDNS something that I don't have with Mullvad DNS.

[–] featured@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use Mozilla VPN, which is just Mullvad but more expensive. I want to support Mozilla though and enjoy the integration with my multi account containers so i stick with it

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[–] KitsuneHaiku@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 year ago

Don't use express VPN. They make it very annoying to cancel. I thought I canceled once and it didn't work.

It takes three confirmations inside a hidden menu.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mullvad. Cheap, simple, good, and everyone here seems to be infatuated with it.

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[–] jawbrakelong@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Celtic7670@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (11 children)
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[–] dishpanman@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] 0Xero0@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I've been using Proton for half a year, and I'm considering buying the Unlimited plan

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I pay for proton. I use it on mobile, laptop, and desktop. Its quite seamless and unobtrusive. I like a vpn that allows me to forget im using a VPN

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[–] 03ari@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Only VPN I would trust is Mullvad

Proton was accused to give access to mails to authorities : https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983

NordVPN and others are usually linked to your email + credit card stuff and you blindly need to trust them

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not only have they provided the data, but they were even called "really easy to work with" by the feds

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[–] sephallen@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Long time AirVPN user here - never had any issues.

[–] SciRave@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Private internet access. It's super cheap too

[–] padook@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I switched to Proton from PIA when I learned of PIAs sketchy new owner Kape Technologies

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[–] Reverendender@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (8 children)
[–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://torrentfreak.com/private-internet-access-to-be-acquired-by-kape/

Some have pointed at Kape’s history. The company had previously operated under the name Crossrider and was active in the advertising space. Among other things, it installed toolbars with β€˜potentially unwanted software.’ While the company has since switched to a focus on cybersecurity, this past has made some people suspicious.

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[–] beeb@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)
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[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Excuse me for my lack of understanding, but why are there so many people looking to hide their traffic from their ISP with a VPN? Isn't HTTPS enough? Are you afraid of ISPs resorting to DPI or MiM to spy on their users? Is customer protection so weak in the US that ISPs are free to spy on their customers using aforementioned techniques?

Edit: I just realized that I left out people leaving under authoritarian regimes, for whom VPNs are unfortunately required to evade their government.

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Because HTTPS protects only things you do on the site. ISP still knows which sites you connect to. Which YouTube video you are watching to. etc. F.E. in Russia ISP's have to keep logs of users interactions for half of year and give it to government when they need them.

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me, the problem is you are instead giving over all of your info to the VPN company, and still be tracked by other means such as fingerprinting of devices, cookies/site data or browsing patterns. Is some random VPN company more trustworthy than my ISP and who’s to say they aren’t sharing the information? Plus, the could also be subpoenaed/NSLed if that’s the concern.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd be more willing to trust a VPN company with this data than an ISP. The former's entire business hinges on providing privacy to their customers while the latter can just sell your data to whoever they want and most people wouldn't bat an eye.

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[–] KitsuneHaiku@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

Because my ISP stopped my internet access last time they were contacted by a copyright holder whose thing I torrented.

[–] slampisko@czech-lemmy.eu 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see surprisingly few mentions of WindScribe in this thread. I've had nothing but good experience with them and I always read their promo emails in full (they send very few of them, and their marketing team is hilarious)

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[–] cow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I don't. Your ISP can hardly see anything you do online. Almost all websites are encrypted with HTTPS and if you are concerned about them seeing what domains you visit you can just change your dns server to quad9 or something else privacy respecting. A more valid usecase for VPN is preventing websites from tracking you IP address, downloading "Linux ISO's" or bypassing geographical blocks and for that I used mullvad but I am looking for something else now that they blocked port forwarding.

If you torrent copyrighted material in Germany, you definitely want a VPN. Private law firms "representing copyright holders" regularly request information about consumers based on source IPs/protocol/ports from ISPs with a court's rubber stamp, then send out demand letters for hundreds of euros, with a risk of thousands if you choose to fight it.

Sometimes they follow up if you ignore it, sometimes not. It is horribly oppressive.

tl;dr germans who torrent from a consumer internet service should use a vpn

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[–] gutter564@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

None atm. DNS over HTTPS cos im poor using mullvad's DNS server instead of VPN . Makes it bit more difficult for my ISP

[–] FlappyBubble@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use a combination of self hosted wireguard servers at family and friends. They connect together with Tailscale. One of the endpoints connect to the Internet through Mullvad. This makes it easy for every single device I own to connect to either Mullvad or any of a number of possible regular ISPs.

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[–] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

ProtonVPN. The VPN works great. I'd use some of their other services but they're pretty restrictive unless you're on more expensive plans than I'm on.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Selfhosted DigitalOcean VPS with SOCKS 5 SSH tunnelling for masking my home IP when web browsing and OVH VPS with OpenVPN server for masking my home IP for my local seedbox server. I don't really need commercial VPNs since I only really need basic functionality to mask my IP and I don't really need a shared service to do that.

YMMV, of course.

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