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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

As a result, to achieve 100 percent clean energy — at least on paper — companies often buy what are known as renewable energy certificates, or RECs, from a solar or wind farm owner. By buying enough credits to match or exceed the energy its operations use, a company could make the claim that its business is powered entirely by clean energy.

“That’s what we do, buy RECs for projects that are not yet operational,” Ms. Hurst said.

In a report published by the Amazon employee group after the company’s announcement, the workers said their research concluded that after deducting Amazon’s use of credits, the real investment in clean energy was just a fraction of what was publicized.

“Buying a bunch of RECs doesn’t help anything,” Ms. Stokes said. “You just have to be investing in real projects.”

Kind of the main punchline of the article. It's indulgences again

[–] silence7 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep. In the early days of transferable renewable energy credits, they were very much hoped to result in additional renewable energy construction, but it became clear within a few years that they don't have that impact.

[–] 7 points 5 days ago

They were an intentional lie by industry, just like post consumer plastic recycling.

[–] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There's a whole bunch of those in Alberta (Canada), the biggest solar farm in the province is owned by Amazon if I'm not mistaken.

With local laws you can't prevent someone from exploiting petrol found on your lot but you can't allow a company to install wind turbines on your lot...

[–] 13 points 5 days ago

Even if they are right, they produce a lot of emissions and waste anyway. Green energy is a spook. Let's look into how they can reduce their total energy consumption, especially their delievery subsidiaries that somehow aren't a part of their business.

[–] 3 points 5 days ago

Amazon fired Emily Cunningham for pushing the company to give a shit about its emissions.

Only after that did they whip up their "climate pledge" and buy the rights to name a hockey arena after that pledge.

Emily and others successfully organized an employee protest at a shareholder meeting in favor of a shareholder resolution around emissions and climate. I'll never forget when she stood up and nervously started reading the resolution, when about half the room (all amazon employees, all wearing white shirts) stood up in solidarity with her. Jeff was backstage. He ignored her calls to step out and respond.

I will never in my life trust a damn thing Amazon says about their own impacts to climate or the environment (or really anything at all)

[–] 1 points 5 days ago

Jeff "Integrity" Bezos.