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Meme transcription: Panel 1. Two images of JSON, one is the empty object, one is an object in which the key name maps to the value null. Caption: “Corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture”

Panel 2. The Java backend dev answers, “They’re the same picture.”

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[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago (13 children)

It can, but especially during serialization Java sometimes adds null references to null values.

That's usually a mistake by the API designer and/or Java dev, but happens pretty often.

[–] MostlyBlindGamer@rblind.com 3 points 4 months ago (12 children)

That’s the thing though, isn’t it? The devs on either side are entering into a contract (the API) that addresses this issue, even if by omission. Whoever breaks the contract must rightfully be ejected into the stratosphere.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago (11 children)

That's exactly not the thing, because nobody broke the contract, they simply interpret it differently in details.

Having a null reference is perfectly valid json, as long as it's not explicitly prohibited. Null just says "nothing in here" and that's exactly what an omission also communicates.

The difference is just whether you treat implicit and explicit non-existence differently. And neither interpretation is wrong per contract.

[–] MostlyBlindGamer@rblind.com 8 points 4 months ago

I think we’re fully in agreement here: if the API doesn’t specify how to handle null values, that omission means they’re perfectly valid and expected.

Imagine a delivery company’s van exploding if somebody attempts to ship an empty box. That would be a very poorly built van.

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