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[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean the emancipation proclamation didn't ban slavery, it just banned it in rebelling states by freeing the slaves in those states. It was a year/years later that the ~~21(?)~~ 13th Amendment was signed that actually banned the practice.

Lincoln didn't want to free the slaves, he just didn't want the south using them as an army.

[-] xor@infosec.pub 15 points 2 weeks ago

he definitely wanted to free the slaves, talked about it and wrote about it extensively, and definitely why we they started the civil war.

his bff was a former slave, even... and just how do you suppose he was supposed to add that 21st amendment before the civil war? you know the president isn't dictator, right? half of congress was the south, at the time... and they were voting pretty heavily in favor of slavery...

members of congress actually beat members of congress to death, in congress, in the lead up to the civil war... while arguing about slavery (in particular about accusations of members of congress owning slaves for raping purposes, rather than their arguments about labor)

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 weeks ago

He was always ambivalent about abolition. Not a fan of slavery, sure. Maybe. But he made it clear over and over and over again that he would much rather keep the country together than free any slaves if he could.

He also MANY times said he wouldn't even know where freed slaves fit into American society, proposing they be shipped off to some island to colonize so he wouldn't have to deal with them.

It was only at the insistence of his generals that it was a military necessity or they'd lose the war that he freed some of the slaves.

[-] xor@infosec.pub -2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 0 points 2 weeks ago

What the fuck are you on about

[-] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 weeks ago

nazi bullshit lies, mainly

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