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[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

females

They are called girls, you know.

[–] fadedmaster@sh.itjust.works 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Isn't "women" preferable over both terms? Pretty sure if I used the term "girls" around most women I know they'd find it offensive. But most women I know are between 25 and 50 years old.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

most women I know are between 25 and 50 years old

Oh, so you only hang out with FEMALES AFTER THEYVE HIT THE WALL AND ARE NO LONGWR VALUABLE AND THEY PROBABLY ARE MANIPULATING YOU WITH THEIR VAGINAS EVEN THOUGH THEIR VAGINAS ARE POINTLESS AFTER 20

(I literally felt gross typing that. Even though the people who genuinely think that way would probably say, like 17, not 20. Yuck.)

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

17 is ok if you're into older girls I guess. /s and also yuck

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

It’s crazy how wrong it feels typing that, right?

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Possibly. They didn't say how young they were, so I assumed teens, not 30s.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’d say “women” in a professional setting, but among friends I don’t see it as an offensive thing. It’s just an informal or casual thing. I’m a guy, and the group of women often includes my wife. But it’s said in a friendly tone.

I think singular vs plural matters too. I would say “good night girls” to a couple of friends leaving, but not “good night girl” to one friend leaving.

[–] mugthol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you say "boys and girls" that's ok imo, but saying "men and girls" is probably condescending again

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

I agree with that amendment. It’s about context just as much as tone and intent.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I always wondered why some nerds (affectionate) use the terms males/females. Maybe they're copying some science fiction book they read?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 52 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Up until like 7 years ago, the word lacked major misogynistic connotation. It used to be fairly common in certain subsects, including nerds, and it all but died in them. I wonder when “female” will become kosher again. This century is unlikely, given the Tate taint. The evolution of language is fascinating.

[–] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

But they've been around for way longer than seven years no?

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

I think we just realized how overly clinical and dehumanizing it is and it just became an easy tell that that person probably, whether they realize it or not, doesn't really see women as equally human to men, like women are only the sex characteristics that make them biologically female.

To be clear, im referring to the phenomenon where someone, despite frequently using the word 'men', is seemingly only able to refer to women as 'females'. You almost never see 'males' used in that standalone way outside of clinical contexts. So yeah, blame those people for ruining it, not the rest of us for wising up to it.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago

Sometimes it's just a non-native speaker thing

[–] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I use it to distinguish sex and gender. Only some females have to deal with periods and pregnancy, but all women have to deal with social mysogeny. In this context I would use women because it's a gender issue not a sex issue.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think it might also be an age thing, if you're in high school/late teenager and talking about your female peers it's a neutral sounding term for when "girls" is too casual and "women" makes them seem too old.