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Water was a scarce resource and probably doesn't count as renewable. There wasn't much need for solar power since it seems they had better energy sources. Spice was mined and used without consideration for its replenishment.
Herbert was vague about some of the technology used, that I know of. Water collection was kinda the biggest thing.
While the Fremen respected the desert and lived in it, I don't think it really has a comparison to a solarpunk society. Fremen only learned efficient ways to survive, IMHO. By that, I mean they learned ways not to get eaten or get extremely dehydrated. It's a bit more of "living on the edge" with scarce resources.
The fremen are a lot more involved with spice than you think, I’m assuming you've only read the first 2 books given your thoughts?
I only remember the first two books, so that would explain where my knowledge faulters.
Could spice be the renewable resource that I am not giving enough credit? I know a little more, but I risk spoiling things since there is probably a new wave of Dune fans after the last movie.
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Fremens control the water that the sandtrout use to become worms who release the spice. There was enough water on arrakis to terraform it after all.Hopefully tag worked right and people enter at own peril.
Ok, it was all about the fish. The last bit I completely forgot. (The spoiler tag worked.)
It’s easy to forget, I don’t think they brought up much about liet-kynes actual fremen role in the movie did they?
A small refresher on them will help everything slide back into line maybe. Movie goers maybe don’t google their role to avoid further story spoilers.
The one thing that disappointed me was the lack of the conservatory during the movies.
Odd, key details were left out or just not explained, for sure. There was a ton of lore you would just need to know before watching the movie to understand all of what you were watching.
Weirding modules are at the top of that list. Either didn't go into depth in the movie and I completely missed them, or they were just cut completely. Of all Dune lore, those were always super odd to me and didn't even fit in the original movie from years ago.
I watched the new movie, got into sci-fi books a little later and read the entire Dune series (rewatched the movie after the first book for fresh comparison). There was a lot the was kinda glossed over, but the main theme of fremen and why the water was kinda devoid.
Thats not ringing any bells so I googled it, seems to be a movie replacement for the prana-bindu wierding, so makes sense for it to seem odd. I’ve never watched it, before my time… haha I’ve been meaning to though.
iirc, they're a conceit of the 1984 Lynch dune, and while cool, aren't in any of the books.
Ok. I got the old movie and the original video game mixed up with proper lore. (I am just old. It's been more than a few years since I read the books and watched the original movie quite a few time. Sigh.)
yeah it was a cool bit from the movie - iirc Lynch couldn't figure out a way for paul's teaching the fremen the 'weirding way' not to look like desert kung fu, so they went that route. hence weirding modules.
re: age - man, it gets us all, the past is just a smeared window for half my memories lol
I still have the first book basically memorized from my youth, kinda.
Not a spoiler, but if you saw the second movie, I am curious: Were the worm scales backwards in the movie? I am fairly sure that there was a better mechanism that the Fremen used to lift them up, starting with a specialized pole to pry up the first scale to stabilize the worm before "steering control" hooks were set. (That has been bugging me since I was at the theater.)
Still waiting to watch it, but I’m drawing a blank on how it was explained in book one. I’ll have to look I up, but I believe the rings were forward facing and the hooks opened them up and the friction of the sand is what causing them to roll over and be able to steer.
It was done solo iirc and they just threw their hooks into the rings to open it while running parallel to it. Then it became a team thing? That where I’m blanking.