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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 71 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Reddit has a market cap of $7.8 Billion right now.

Truth Social had a market cap of $8.4 Billion.

[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nothing's real πŸ˜…πŸ˜“

[–] m13@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism is literally a pyramid scam.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why do people keep misrepresenting capitalism as some silly boogie man? This is just as stupid as people claiming socialism is innately bad.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

Because most people don't recognize a fundamental difference between capital "C" capitalism (the economic principal of supply and demand. and "venture capitalism" which is about speculating on a business' future based on what essentially amounts to a magic 8 ball.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's all just rigged gambling. That money won't benefit the company at all. The investors just sold all their stocks to the hedge funds and retirement funds for them to lose money on, like always. The IPO was just a way to pay off investors and let executives cash in their stocks. I'd love to know what restrictions on selling came with the stocks that were given to regular employees and users/mods. Like are they allowed to sell right away or do they have to hold it for some period of time?

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But about as democratic as can be. No one was forced to buy Reddit. Benefit or not to the company, the company was essentially sold. The new owners of their very own choice will want a return. A big return to essentially cover 8 billion they just paid for it.

Reddit will need tens of billions in revenue to make the profits those new owners will demand. It is that drive to justify the cost that will make it another shitty bloated ad platform.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

But that's not really how the stock market works anymore. Now investors don't buy stock to support a company and draw a portion of the profits. That version of the market hasn't existed for a while.

Now, the market is used as a gambling platform for wealthy people and is kept afloat only by IRA, 401k, charitable trusts, etc. Basically, a company is having trouble with profit. You buy into the company, put in a CEO you can control, have them boost the price at the expense of employees, customers, and long-term profit. Sell the stock. Let the company fall apart.

Then buy it low, have the CEO make up a new product based on whatever tech fad is popular. Sell just before the money is spent. Let the project fail because all the money was spent on marketing and consultants and not on the employees to actually do the project. Buy up the stock again, do some stock buybacks, sell again, etc.

But it's never a strategy of: hire really good employees, make them happy, give them an achievable project with enough funding, increase the company's reputation by making quality products, etc. That requires actually good business plans and products and a lot of work and no short term, "hey look at how much money I saved by cutting budgets even though everyone said our products will be crap without it," kinds of flashy quarterly reports.

Playing the gambling game is more reliable profit and with retirement funds and all that keeping serious market crashes from happening, and the politicians being on their side and willing to bail them out if it does get bad, there's a lot of wiggle room and a lot of people to lose money and funnel to them that doesn't affect the corporations.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

The stock market has a lot of magical thinking behind it. That's why there are constant frauds.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Influencing Spez's options on steel tarrifs isn't worth as much as the founder of Truth Social

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At least truth social is open source

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As open source as Reddit? Meaning, original software was but is it currently?

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

It’s built on mastodon. They got slapped for not linking their source. Not sure if that ever got resolved.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is the first I've heard of whatever truth social is

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

It's where all the Maga people went after Twitter started banning them for pushing (I think it was russian) propoganda.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It has 1/100th of the users of Reddit and it's just a Twitter clone but it's meme stocking because Trump is on there. Obviously the company isn't actually worth billions but it's a fun comparison.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s a mastodon clone. They literally tried to rip it off and got their hands slapped.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

not only is it a mastodon clone, it's an out of date, wretchedly insecure mastodon clone. cause, you know, trump gets the BEST people lol.... fucking clown show