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Maine barred Donald Trump from the primary ballot Thursday, making it the second state in the country to block the former president from running again under a part of the Constitution that prevents insurrectionists from holding office.

The decision by Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows (D) is sure to be appealed. The Colorado Supreme Court last week found Trump could not appear on the ballot in that state, and the Colorado Republican Party has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. The nation’s high court could resolve for all states whether Trump can run again.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 107 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

If this picks up steam, we could very well see another Republican candidate (most likely DeSantis) win the nomination and become Joe Biden's opponent.

On the other hand, the SCOTUS is Republican controlled. They already got Roe V Wade overturned and could very well rule in Trump's favour.

Part of me truly worries that America will be the first to fall to a new wave of Fascism, and that this will spur further swings in Europe. (AfD are performing alarmingly well in East Germany, whilst Le Pen has been closer than ever before to winning the French presidency.)

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 73 points 10 months ago (4 children)

DeSantis would get fucking wrecked in a national race, Biden's team would laugh their asses off, then get back to sending crib-seeking missiles to Netanyahu.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Careful, that's exactly what we said about Trump.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Trump had charisma, DeSantis has anti-charisma. The more people see of him the less people like him. He pissed off big business with his Disney stuff.

There's a reason his campaign is in hospice care.

If it isn't Trump it'll be Haley. She would have a real shot.

But it's gonna be Trump anyway, so this is kind of moot.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You underestimate just how disliked Biden is, and how many Americans honestly believe that Trump had the last election stolen from him.

Also, the fact that Trump survived two impeachments, spurred an attempted insurrection and is only now starting to face state/federal charges that in any other democracy would have had him immediately struck off from the ballot is worrying. It's set precedent that could allow a more sane, manipulative and competent candidate to commandeer the country.

The only possible good that could come out of a DeSantis nomination would be if Trump ran as an independent in protest and heavily split the right wing vote, which would guarantee a second Biden term.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I agree with everything that both of you said.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Desantis would get wrecked in a cognitive dissonance race with trump.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If this picks up steam, we could very well see another Republican candidate (most likely DeSantis) win the nomination and become Joe Biden’s opponent.

That's the entire point, isn't it? To prevent the insurrectionist from being on the ballot, not "prevent the republicans from being on the ballot."

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

More than that, some people will still vote for Trump as a write in, which will split the Republican vote and force them to lose

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Metz@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. The former DDR part is commonly still called that. It still differs noticeably from the West in terms of culture and level of development. Unfortunately, the entire region has moved significantly to the right politically. So much even that an openly right-wing extremist party has a majority in multiple parts of it.

[–] bgh251f2@lemmy.eco.br -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know Dance Dance Revolution got a party. Weird thing.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

We have a group at work that uses the abbreviation "DDRC". I often think of them as the Dance Dance Revolution Committee. Their actual purpose is much, much less fun.

(I also often say "Time has no meaning there" about them, referencing Star Trek Generations. Because they literally do not care how long they delay projects. It's not their problem, and they refuse to even acknowledge there is a concern. I really hate dealing with them, if you haven't guessed.)

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's like saying Southern California. It's just a region within a larger state.

[–] Neil@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hate to say it, but the world is overdue for a new world war. Fascism seems to rise when the previous generation that experienced Fascism dies off. Nobody who went through it wants that to happen again, but like toddlers, we need to touch the stove to learn it's hot.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Correction: the rich want another world war and are pushing for it. The brainwashing that has been going on for years wasn't paid by your average joe.

And as usual, it will be paid with the blood of the poor