this post was submitted on 21 Dec 2023
781 points (95.8% liked)
People Twitter
5228 readers
959 users here now
People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
RULES:
- Mark NSFW content.
- No doxxing people.
- Must be a tweet or similar
- No bullying or international politcs
- Be excellent to each other.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
First person = someone describing their own point of view (ex: I, me)
Second person = someone being addressed (ex: you, y'all)
Third person = someone talking about someone else (ex: they, them)
Fourth person = the point of view of a collective group (ex: we, us)
I can't tell if you're making a joke or not, but when I learned it "we" was first person plural. Likewise "y'all" was second person plural, etc.
Y’all’s takes are both valid.
The difference is that we as a first person plural is generally used for a more discrete group of people, but still from the perspective of a single narrator. Fourth person we is generally used for a collective of people with a shared perspective; there is no single narrator that is separate from the collective group, the entire group is there narrator. Fourth person is a concept that has only recently begun to be recognized as a distinct point of view.
If you believe in string perspective there are infinite narrators narrating each other's narrations and we have only just started to make words for the infinities.
Way too sober for this conversation lol
Bird Person = friend of Rick Sanchez and generally good guy who doesn't appreciate dick moves
It fascinates me that an entire family can be this critical and suck this much.
Wubba lubba dub dub.
Doesn't exist. We/us is first person plural. Some languages have a little complexity here (e.g. Tagalog has "kami" which means "we without you" and "tayo" which means "we with you," but they're both still first person plurals).
Some linguists disagree and have recently begun accepting the existence of a fourth person point of view. Languages evolve, and I guess we'll just have to see if it catches on and becomes more widely accepted in the future.
I'll have to look into that, and I'd appreciate why sources you have handy.
One does not simply just make a fourth person point of view.