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Israel drove suitcases stuffed with cash into Gaza to keep Hamas in power (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Silverseren@kbin.social to c/world@lemmy.world

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Israeli officials are facing backlash after years of Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu quietly allowing Hamas to remain in power.

But reporting in the New York Times has revealed that Netanyahu's government was more hands-on about helping Hamas: they helped a Qatari diplomat bring suitcases of cash into Gaza, indirectly boosting the militant organization, according to the report.

The calculus — the Times reported on Sunday, citing Israeli officials, Netanyahu's critics, and the man's own reported statements — was to keep Hamas strong enough to counteract the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, allowing Netanyahu to avoid a two-state peace solution and keep both sides weak.

Israeli security officials got it wrong; they didn't think Hamas was capable, or even interested, in launching a large attack against the Jewish state.

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[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I understand you are not implying that pearl harbour and 9/11 where inside jobs.

I think, you just referencing to the public support that followed those events. Right?

[–] _xDEADBEEF@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Theres some who think the mistakes of Pearl Harbor wasn't anything but incompetence/human error.

[–] instamat@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not inside jobs necessarily but both events had credible foreknowledge of an imminent attack that wasn’t acted upon.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It was hubris and arrogance and incompetence.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

You know false positives exist right?

[+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas also had credible foreknowledge that Israel would start fucking them and everything near them up if they committed an incredibly successful terrorist strike. That didn't seem to deter them.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course not. Hamas isn't responsible for israel's genocide. If anything the israeli response has shown the world just how much of a Nazi state israel truly is.

[+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas isn’t responsible for israel’s genocide.

Yes, I agree (although it's war, not a genocide). In the same logic, the foreknowledge that Israel had about Hamas's strike does not make Hamas's strike Israel's fault.

[–] Sparlock@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Genocide is any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Sure seems like Israel is trying to get a full bingo card on this one even if you reject the notion of «genocide».

And before you go for the “intent” get out of jail free card…

Israel’s Public Diplomacy Minister: "Erase all of Gaza from the face of the earth. That the Gazan monsters will fly to the southern fence & try to enter Egyptian territory or they will die & their death will be evil.

Gaza should be erased!"

Still questioning a genocidal intent?

How about Bibi Netanyahu saying “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. 1 Samuel 15:3 ‘Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass’," .

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant called residents of Gaza, about half of whom are children, “human animals” as he ordered a “complete siege” on the enclave including a total blockade of food, fuel, and electricity.

Former military officer Eliyahu Yossian said the IDF must enter Gaza “with the aim of revenge, zero morality, maximum corpses,” and toldChannel 14 in Israel on Monday that “there is no population in Gaza, there are 2.5 million terrorists.”

Earlier this year, Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said at an event in Paris, “There’s no such thing as Palestinians because there’s no such thing as a Palestinian people.” He also said the West Bank town of Huwara should be “wiped out” by “the state of Israel,” while Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu presented a map of what he called “The New Middle East”—without the illegally occupied West Bank, Gaza, or East Jerusalem—at the United Nations General Assembly just weeks before the onslaught in Gaza began.

Sure seems like a pattern of intent. I could find you that video of Bibi back in 2002 saying much the same if you like. This isn’t new.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Not to say the Israeli isn't 110% shit but the 'bingo card' you present remains completely empty. Sure they'd like all Gazans to flee to Egypt but anyone calling this a genocide just hasn't seen a real genocide yet

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

No, not inside jobs, but not dealt with appropriately so as to get America involved or to pass the patriot act. We know for a fact that the CIA was still trying to flip one of the terrorist pilots the day of.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He is a conspiracy nut

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, not at all, but I understand new facts can change upheld beliefs.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What facts do you have that Jewish people allowed Oct 7 to happen?

Or even the american government allowing 9/11?

[–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Saudis are US allies. They did 911. Yet we remain allies. It doesn't mean we 'did it' through them. But it's suspect and deserves consideration.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

A closer inspection already showed it was rogue saudi elements and a combination of arrogant, incompetent analysts during a transition period of presidencies.

You should give that consideration.

[–] Sparlock@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The New York times did a few pieces on it at the beginning of Dec.
"Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago.
A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings." https://archive.ph/SDOlU