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Kelsey Grammer sounded curt this morning when he brusquely told a BBC Today program interviewer that he still supports Donald Trump but, according to his interviewer, this curtness doesn’t tell the full story.

Grammer’s interviewer Justin Webb said the Frasier star was “perfectly happy” to go on talking about his support for the former POTUS, “the Paramount+ PR team, less so.”

Grammer has previously expressed support for Trump – a relatively rare position for a TV and movie star to take – and he also used his BBC interview to back Roseanne Barr, another self-confessed Trump supporter.

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[–] osarusan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find myself just unable to agree with what you say.

I mean, let's take the idea that we should be able to shut off someone's political opinions and view them purely in a vacuum to the extreme. Imagine a cooking show hosted by Hitler. Could you watch "Cooking With Hitler" and truly divorce yourself from everything he did and said and believed and just enjoy his cupcakes? I know that I could not, and I don't expect there are many people on the planet that honestly could.

So if we tone down the extremity of that example a bit, we can apply the same thing to what we're looking at here. Kelsey Grammer's political opinions are terrible. I don't know how you can come to any conclusion other than that unless you are a die-hard MAGA. His politics are just abhorrent. I can only separate a person's politics from their self and their work so much.

Back when he was in Frasier, I knew he was a pretty hardcore right wing conservative, but at the time that meant a different thing than it does today. It wasn't so extreme that I couldn't enjoy Frasier. But now, seeing what the GOP has become, and what they stand for, and what they've done over the past 15+ years, it's too much for me. Anyone who chooses to stand in the same camp as Trump, the 1/6 insurrectionists, the Christian fascists... they're too far gone for me to connect on any level. I have no idea if the Frasier reboot is any good (or the Roseanne one for that matter), because I am too aware of who these people are. They have shown not only a total lack of compassion and empathy, but also it's extreme inverse. It's Cooking With Hitler for me now.

It's not at all about sheltering. I am not sheltered from these concepts. Quite far from that, in fact. It's keen awareness of them that makes me so repulsed.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine a cooking show hosted by Hitler

I think its good to let that argument sit and allow people to see that. This is an absurd take that Kelsey grammar saying he supports trump is in some way akin to watching a cooking show about Hitler. I know you didn't say that directly. But the logic is there to associate it. I assume you are trying to use an extreme to show that there is a situation where it would be crazy to say "who cares their politics" but in this case presenting that case shows how absurd a lot of you are in your thinking on this issue. You have been driven to the fringes just as the right were years ago and still are. You're all being bent like a reed.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The absurdity of that statement was the point of it. That seems to have gone way over your head. Oh well...