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Sorry Python but it is what it is.

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[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well there’s your problem lol.

Don’t use 2 for anything, it’s been “dead” for almost 4 years.

[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is 2 and modules for 2 still tend to worm their way in somehow. I always use python3 -m pip because I never trust that "pip" alone is going to be python3 pip and I think that's what the people who have lots of trouble with pip aren't doing.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Valid point.

I force everything to 3 and don’t accept any 2.

And in fairness, there were some moderate breaking changes 3.6-3.8

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It would be weird to have python2-pip installed if you don't have python2 installed, pip should be python2-pip by default on most systems.

I... Dunno, are you suggesting that sometimes pip2 is the default and that that somehow mixes 2 and 3 modules? Pip 2 should install into python 2's directory and pip 3 to python 3's. The only times I have had messy python environments is when I mix pipenv, conda and/or pip, and when people install into the main python with specific versioning, use a virtual env for God's sake, that's what npm does.

[–] spacecadet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh the blissful ignorance of not having to manage tech debt

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, I just don’t ignore it for 4 years.

The bliss is in having management that actually DOES manage the debt instead of ignoring it until it shits the bed