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Breakdown of countries receiving grain exports by percentage received:

  • ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ- 1.80 (or 19% of total weight)
  • ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ทโ€“ 1.29 (14%)
  • ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡นโ€“ 0.86 (9%)
  • ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ- 0.84 (9%)
  • ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ-0.55 (6%)
  • ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ฌโ€“0.42 (5%)
  • ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฉ-0.27 (3%)
  • ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ฉโ€“0.25 (3%)
  • ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ-0.24 (3%)
  • ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ชโ€“0.22 (2%)
  • Other countries - 2.59 (28%)

Countries with serious starvation rates,where more than 10% of the population suffers from malnutrition, got only 1.18 million tons (13%) of cereals, including 25% of wheat. In particular, 11 ships with 0.36 million tons of grain (4%) went to the poorest countries in Africa.

NATO countries and their allies - 6.15 million (66% of 9.3million). Poor countries/ countries with serious starvation rates - 1.18 (13%).

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[โ€“] pingveno@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If your argument is as it is here, that the rich will take what they want while the poor die and the powerful will do as they will, then be consistent.

Yeah. Which is why it's so critical to be getting as much food onto the market, so that there everyone is taken care of.

Let Europe always speak in those terms rather than using human suffering as a political pawn only to seek their own advantage.

This isn't a matter of political advantage. Russia blockaded Ukraine's grain shipments. Everyone could tell that combined with preexisting conditions it was a disaster in the making. Europe had to go out of their way to put this deal together.

They stole their money and sanctioned them in a deliberate policy to starve Afgahnistan. It is nothing short of genocide.

There is so much wrong in this statement. The money at issue formed the reserves of the Afghan central bank. The US is reticent to release it because they're afraid it will just go into Taliban pockets, not go to the Afghan people. It has actively been involved in talks as to how to release the money without it being funneled to the Taliban's soldiers. The US has no interest in starving the people of Afghanistan. Flinging such false allegations of genocide around cheapens very real acts of genocide that are ongoing.

Stop mentioning leaders by name as if their intentions have any impact on their governments.

I mention individual leaders when I think their individual actions, motives, and opinions are relevant. Otherwise, I think it's more informative to think of countries and governments as primarily composed of individual actors that should be analyzed in aggregate.

[โ€“] lxvi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's nothing wrong with the statement beyond your unwillingness to accept reality.

Are you denying the food crisis in Afghaniatan? The US and Europe lost the war. Afghanistan is a sovereign nation. What right does the west have to starve the people or deny their government access to their funds?

The West is starving Afganistan but I guess it isn't a genocide because they're only doing it punitivively for Afghanistan having won the war.

[โ€“] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Are you denying the food crisis in Afghaniatan?... What right does the west have to starve the people or deny their government access to their funds?

It's definitely a thing. I don't think releasing that money to the Taliban - the same group that terrorized and slaughtered the people of Afghanistan for many years - is necessarily the way to deal with the situation. Other organizations that will be better stewards of that money would be ideal.

The West is starving Afganistan but I guess it isnโ€™t a genocide because theyโ€™re only doing it punitivively for Afghanistan having won the war.

Definition of genocide:

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group

Withholding cash from the Taliban so they can't just give it to their fighters doesn't fit this definition. For far too long, the US was careless about how it sloshed around cash and arms under the stupidity of the Cold War. It needs to take responsibility for how it releases cash and and arms now.