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Thanks for sharing this article. It's more nuanced and interesting than i expected, although i have disagreements with some parts of course. Overall, it raises the question of Do we want to accept authoritarian rule and some forms of injustice, in the name of material development for the masses?
Personally, i'm strongly in the "no" camp ("freedom or death"). But this article is a somewhat fair argument for "yes".
What's wrong with this quote? Is it not true that in much of the ex-USSR the "communist" elites have organized the privatization of resources/industry? Is that not how Putin for example came to power and helped establish the new oligarchy?
Is that not the case all the way back to Lenin, who promised communism but massacre everyone who actually practiced it (Ukraine Commune, Cronstadt..) ?
I guess it depends on local context, but i would say it's true for some persons/networks, but definitely not true when it comes to Communist Parties. Or it may be true depending on the perceived advantages of doing so... for example the PCF in France defending independent Algeria on paper then voting for the war against independence, or denouncing State racism then mounting local militias to attack immigrant housing.
Again, what's wrong with this quote? We could say the same about the US empire, btw... I'd say someone who is not willing to criticize both is a puppet of imperial interests. In practice, Orwell witnessed this first hand when he was in a trotskyist militia during the spanish revolution: he saw the communist party seize power and massacre all opposition (anarchist/trotskyist), so i can understand where that sentiment comes from. I truly recommend reading his autobiographic Homage to Catalonia for historical context.
That's true, but misleading. Some people's republics have done huge service to foreign populations (eg. Cuban medical support), but when it comes from the USSR it was never (that i know of) for free. Material support was in exchange of suppressing the local leftists (like Lenin/Trotsky did in USSR) in order to build a vassal state. That's for example what the USSR did during the spanish revolution, which arguably killed the revolution and led to the victory of fraquist fascism.
Well that's the first fair and balanced sentence in the whole article. The author went to great lengths to say that the USSR and other people's republic were unjustly attacked, before finally recognizing that there are "injustices" to address... which was the whole point of criticizing the USSR (from a leftist perspective) the entire time.
Well that's true. Enlightened intellectuals tend to consider the people too stupid to self-organize or have an informed opinion on things. The author would do himself a great service by analyzing what he finds wrong in this quote, instead of just asserting it's plain wrong without explanations.
Yet again, what's wrong with this? Lenin literally came back to Russia in the middle of a revolution, organized a military putsch, and jailed/killed all opposition. Not only did he do it but he advocated for this as "vanguard" and "dictatorship of the proletariat".
Wow we are definitely not talking about the same "leftists". Remember the author was citing Chomsky as an example of left anti-communism. How is Chomsky any close to the Democratic Party?
Right on point. But how does that make such injustice acceptable? Noone is arguing that western neoliberalism is "better" than USSR State capitalism. At least noone on the left.
It's a historical view. There are countless examples of such movements throughout history, except in marxist-leninist "history" because they have been entirely erased.
This is a fallacy! That military activities requires central planning goes mostly without doubt (though some could argue otherwise). But that does not mean that central military power should hold political power over the local population. Two historical examples:
On the contrary, it is arguable that personal/communal autonomy is a fuel that drives people to defend the revolution with all their heart, whereas conscription or being ordered to execute your neighbors or union comrades is not exactly a good motivation...
Correct. But i find it weird not to apply the same kind of historical criticism to Lenin/Trotsky.
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I somewhat agree with this interpretation. But i could also take it from another angle: Having never understood the role that perspectives of actual freedom & equality for all played in tempering the worst impulses of tyranny, and having perceived anarchism as nothing but chaos, the marxist-leninists did not anticipate the losses that were to come. Some of them still don't get it.