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The worst-case production of plant-based foods actually comes out ahead compared to best-case production on virtually every environmental metric including emissions.
https://ourworldindata.org/less-meat-or-sustainable-meat
More broadly
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/htm
Transportation doesn't actually make as much impact as one might think
https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local
In terms of health, one can live perfectly fine and healthy on a plant-based diet
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/
I have one thing for you to research - as I do agree when it comes to naturally-created plant diets (but still with a requirement of some meat, pescatarians and vegetarians make more sense than vegans) - But you should instead look out for Seed-oils. Video
The seed oil thing in particular isn't really backed up by current research
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/scientists-debunk-seed-oil-health-risks/
If you are looking at plant-based meats as that video seems to be, there is some degree of evidence showing that it still comes out ahead health-wise compared to animal meat . That being said, aiming for more of a whole-foods plant-based diet is of course even better health-wise
Never mind, if I knew this conversation was unreasonable I wouldn't have started it. Imagine thinking that something manufactured in laboratories requiring to be tested by FDA for human consumption is "healthier" than something that already naturally occurs. Got it.
I'm a bit confused by that quoted bit since whole-food plant-based diets are an entirely separate concept from plant-based meats. Whole-foods plant-based diets ential using whole foods like beans, potatoes, lentisl, etc. in dishes
For the second half. Nearly everything is tested by the FDA. You can find plenty of naturally occurring things like citric acid from citric fruits having been given a GRAS referencing studies to determine how much may be too much.
Natural does not nessaraily mean healthy. For instance, Tobacco isn't exactly healthy despite it being naturally occurring and having been used for a long time
Are plant-based meats the healthiest things in the world, no, but are they worse than meat, the current evidence suggests they are likely better health wise in that comparison