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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] daragh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Intimidating to install and then an unfamiliar interface and applications.

It might be more accepted if it came preinstalled and simply had a browser like Chrome and an app store, where all the other 'helpful' but confusing apps like Libre office were kept out of the way.

I install it for my family and it would only be accepted if it looked and worked just like Windows or MacOS. All they really need is a browser to get to GSuite or Office365.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I'm a new user. How do I disable being prompted for a password every time I want change/install anything? I just want password requirement at logon and not when logged on.

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[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Funding. Nobody has figured out how to fund development for large open source OSes outside of the enterprise realm. You crack that, you can have linux be installed by default on Desktop/Laptop computers, and patches that come as a result of that funding benefit the rest of the ecosystem as well. People will use the default, they will complain about it, just like they complain about Windows Update randomly restarting their computer, but they'll use it.

But also the share of people who own laptops or desktops continues to dwindle. Many people don't have and see no need for a computer. So they run Android, which is Linux, so I guess we're winning there?

[–] guttermonk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Exiting Vi/Vim 😂

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The absolutely never ending jank. My latest grippe, Ubuntu 22.04 . Remote desktop needs password reset after every reboot, no idea why, grdctl set password doesn't help, only doing it in the Ubuntu settings UI works. Never ending stream of tiny annoyances like that

[–] nlogn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

IMO one of the main problems is eliminating the workflow of older commercial operating systems and having to build a new habit of using a new system. There are various Linux-based distributions that manage to give the user everything they need without having to resort to using the specific terminal.

Creating a new habit after spending years developing one for an old system, for me, is the main problem that leads many users to leave it.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it need to work like how your microwave works. You don't don't have to know ANYTHING about how any thing related to computer. Just click stuff to make it work. Also get more companies to ship things with Linux

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, so I have an ASUS Zephyrus M16 with a Core i19 12th Gen and an rtx 3070. I was able to install fedora and able to get it mostly 100% working, but my two biggest issues where I could not play Destiny 2 (because they didn't want to support Linux and actually would ban players who tried), and the switch between egpu and the discrete gpu that you have to reboot for the changes to take effect. Every once in a while the display wouldn't work and I had to reboot multiple times before it would start to work again because of the aforementioned issues with the gpu. All in all I love Linux but I can't spend any time troubleshooting and just need a laptop that just works.

[–] bear 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you set it up per https://asus-linux.org? These guys do amazing work to make ASUS laptops feel like first class citizens on Linux in both kernel patches and software. Strongly recommend, only takes a few minutes on Fedora if you're already installed and up to date. You should be able to get working Optimus and less GPU issues.

Can't help ya with Destiny though, they're just jerks.

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[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... Is Linux even a challenge to anyone that just needs basic stuff? (Ubuntu, fedora, etc)

I only have trouble trying to install shit that's not in repos.

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[–] tryph@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

I’m an artist who is never switching to linux unless they fix my major gripes (which seem like it’ll never happen just looking at the answers here lol).

Allergic to GUIs

  • Devs and most Linux users act allergic to having intuitive GUIs. It’s already a pain to use a lot of small programs that don’t have them on windows. I’m familiar enough with using terminals for stuff but I am so incredibly disinterested in using it All The Time or even often.

Not having easy to access and understand toggles/settings are actually a friction point for most users—I think people who are tech inclined seriously need to remember and understand this. Needing to dig for a command to do simple things IS the OS getting in the way in my experience. I’ve seen screenshots of elementaryOS which seems to get this but my next issue is:

Software and hardware compatibility

  • A lot of things I use for work like CSP, Adobe suite, Live2d, etc aren’t natively supported. I also don’t want to be risking encountering possible bugs or errors trying to get it to run them. Not all my games are from steam either, and I don’t know if those would run. There’s simply too many things I use daily that don’t have native support.

I also keep hearing about AMD driver issues which is no good for my pc.

Overall, as much as I hate windows and microsoft, it’s easier to put up and debloat the garbage that comes up over dealing with the issues above. Because when it works, It Actually Just Works. There’s more google-able tech support answers for it too instead of me needing to ask for help every time I encounter something.

Things that are easy to do does add up eventually, which again, is why needing to use the terminal often is not at all an ideal average user experience especially if this could be cut down with some mouse clicks. I think distros could address this if the devs actually care about the non-tech nerd user experience, but I don’t know if the software support/compatibility will ever be fully dealt with.

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[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Unwarranted fear.

There is a perception of Linux as this hacker, terminal-only OS with a million equal choices and no direction or guides. This is not a true view or at least this is hyperbolic/based on Linux from 15 years ago. It is a stigma that Linux has. Every distro these days has to market itself as "We're the out-of-the-box distro" which is just silly. Out-of-the-box is meaningless. Even Windows users modify their OS in certain ways. However, it breaks the stigma.

Linux adoption just needs more time. Most of the big issues for adoption have been solved in the past few years, and Linux is ready and knowledge of Linux and removal of the stigma is growing.

[–] UkaszGra@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

commercial, immutable distro with professional support team. Easy desktop env. like cinnamon, budgie or kde Preinstalled on new devices

[–] filister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fragmentation, there is so many WM, DE, Distros, package managers. This is the beauty of open source but it is also the plague.

Toxic communities, where people are thrashing you if you don't understand sometimes the overly complicated wiki and you dare open a thread in one of the forums to seek for help.

Driver support, sometimes installing your OS requires a lot of manual configuration to make everything work ok your machine the way you want it.

[–] Zengen@social.fossware.space 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly I think Linux has been on a great path with flatpak and appimages and graphical software centers. With BTRFS Snapper system recovery if an update goes wrong is even easier than the windows version to be honest. Honestly the big push now just needs to come from some corporate and also adoption at the early education level. One reason its so hard for people to switch from windows is because most windows users have at this point used windows and nothing else for 20+ years.for those of the millennial generation and gen z they've been trained to use windows literally since childhood. Linux and open source tech being free and open source would make it a great cost savings move forpublicc education institutions and getting newer generations of young people not straight indoctrinated into using exclusively windows is important.

But to do this IT departments need to have corporate fallback for support. We need companies like suse enterprise or redhat etc to do the corporate level support to even think about an endeavor like that.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nvidia. Within two weeks, their shitty drivers broke my system twice. If I didn't already know about that beforehand, I would've probably quit linux for good after that experience.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The average user doesn't give a shit about what OS they're running. They also don't know what tools they need. I remember a client who dropped $700 on Photoshop because "How else can I resize my photos?"

Linux is to hard for someone who doesn't know why it's bad to install multiple antivirus suites. People who don't know the difference between a web browser and a search engine.

Linux will only ever be for hobbyist because they the only ones who give a damn.

[–] F4stL4ne@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The main challenge is resisting the urge to install Linux on your own. Because you will need help at some point, so start now by asking for help.

And then, when you don't find the solution by yourself don't waste time and ask for help.

In time you will get it enough to know what you're doing.

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