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[–] vane@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

you should be able to vote :

  1. anytime
  2. for anyone in the country that have full citizen rights
  3. electronically - privately using your private key signed and acknowledged by gov
  4. over whole period you can change your vote anytime
  5. counting votes and reset should be every 4 - 5 years depending on terms
  6. before counting votes everyone should get notification one month, one week, one day before and only if you didn't vote hour, 15 minutes before counting
  7. if you didn't vote your voting account should be disabled and removed from pool until you pay the fine to bring it back.

that's all, let's bring the voting to 21st century lol

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is inconsistent with the preservation of democracy, as it allows a third party to confirm exactly who you voted for, and reimburse or punish you for it.

Mainly you'll have to tweak point 3, to use existing E2E.verified voting approaches which are only tangentially related to asymmetric encryption (and private keys).

We might use asymmetric encryption and private keys for some parts of identity verification, but you wouldn't sign your ballot with it.

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[–] Matombo@feddit.de 11 points 8 months ago (5 children)

what about voting 3rd party? To show that you do care but hate both candidates.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Damn, they should really have thought about that when picking their nominees

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Maybe consider there are other alternatives to voting?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Voting, not voting, and...?

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago
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[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

Its funny bc people from usa thinks this is smart

[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (29 children)

As a dual citizen with Australia:

Vote, vote, vote. You are disrespecting all hard-fought wons by marginalized groups throughout 200+ years of history.

Literally, the first voters in the country were land owning white men.

People died. So you could have a say.

You are disrespecting the dead, and denying you civic duty, and your obligation in the social contract, by not voting.

People should be disgraced and shunned for not voting. I do not care what your political beliefs are, even if they are odious or fickle or contrarian or uninformed to me.

Show up and cast your ballot you otherwise absolute disrespectful coward.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that's it... lecture and gaslight the people who have seen what you refuse to admit - that's the way to get them back on your side.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I feel like the aim of a large number of campaigns from a certain party are specifically aimed at amping up voter apathy and wanting people to just not vote. If that's what they're afraid of, people just turning up to vote, then just sitting out the election is letting them win.

I think the problem that alot of people have is that they expect just the vote itself is all we need to do to affect change, like that's where our responsibility starts and stops and once you've voted, you can just expect everything you want to just magically happen. That's not it at all, voting is where you're trying to set the conditions to be more favorable to your point of view, but it's still up to the citizens to affect political change. It's the difference between getting your leaders to capitulate because they're predisposed to accepting your wants/needs vs having a leader who is more likely to send in the National Guard to beat you down or just actively work against your interests.

Biden may not be perfect, but he's more likely to listen and adjust his position to a sustained Democratic voter push on certain topics. If Democratic voters and activists keep pushing & protesting on something, they're more likely to get a favorable response. Contrast this to what a Trump administration will mean. Whatever demands you make are going to be completely ignored out of spite, and if anything they'll just go in the opposite direction because you're "those" kind of voters, or potentially they end up using brutal means to suppress protests.

The Trump administration actively tried to make the COVID pandemic worse because they thought it would kill more Democrats than Republicans, they were trying to get Democrats killed, maybe by just passively not doing anything, but they still tried, never forget this. It was only because Democrats listened to the science, by being smarter and taking proper precautions, that COVID ended up blowing up in Republicans faces and killing more of them. Letting them win just gives them another chance to try again, chances are not even passively the next time around.

[–] PatMustard@feddit.uk 7 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Spoil your ballot. Sends the message that they're all wankers and you get to draw a cock on the paper!

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[–] Mastengwe@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

We go through this shit every four years. They throw their temper tantrums, shit all over everything and then disappear after the election.

2016, 2020, and I guarantee they’ll do it again in November.

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Make n"none of the above" a valid candidate. If it gets more thanx%, remove everyone, hold a new election. Rince and repeat until you get a clear winner.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If that were gonna work, third party candidates would get way more than they do, since that's effectively what voting for them is.

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[–] deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 months ago
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