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I'm called a Nazi because I happily am proud of white culture. But every day I think fondly of the brown king Cyrus the Great who invented the first ever empire, and the Japanese icon Murasaki Shikibu who wrote the first novel ever. What if humans just loved each other? History teaches us that we have all been, and always will be - great

read the whole thread, her responses are even worse

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[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago

Me, a nazi? Preposterous, no nazi would idolize ancient warlords or cultural works from Japan.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She’s 35 and her sum total understanding of culture and race has lead to this. I think she has been effectively a Nazi from way back.

[–] acb@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OTOH, she also has said things like that she’s a socialist but believes in free markets rather than government intervention, so it’s probably fair to say that she’s not the sharpest egg in the attic

[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 10 months ago

she’s a lying fascist. “nah I’m actually the socialists and here’s what real socialism looks like” is one of the oldest moves in the fascist playbook. she’s very bad at it, but it still did its job and convinced a lot of folks who don’t know any better that she was the leftist who would fix musk by giving him dmt or whatever

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The implication that there is or has ever been a monolithic "white culture" is idiotic. It is one of those assertions where the left and right horseshoe towards falsehood and depravity. That is to say both the Klan and extreme progressives agree there is a magic all encompassing definition of "whiteness".

This concept itself is racist because it assumes Ashkenazi Jewish, Nordic, Russian, and Irish cultures are identical in some way, when they obviously aren't. "The shared amount of relative pigmentation in skin" doesn't culturally unite people, nor does it account for their shared values and traditions, or lack thereof.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I understand how "white" become the word for a sort of assumed racial default, but it's really annoying to have to play this weird motte-and-bailey when people don't understand or pretend not to understand that whiteness is not about skin pigmentation and never was. Wanna check my skin on a Pantone chart againts Hitler's and then guess which one of us he thought was merely an "honorary aryan"?

I wish we had a better word for it.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 1 points 10 months ago

"Italian" was excluded from "white" in the US in living memory

[–] Shitgenstein1@awful.systems 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

extreme progressives agree there is a magic all encompassing definition of “whiteness”.

What do you mean by this? Speaking for myself, what I've read on the left with respect to "whiteness" has been largely critical of the concept, e.g. that it exists by its function to other and marginalize those deemed non-white. Who are you talking about on the left that affirms a non-reductive concept of whiteness? Because it sounds like you're both-sides-ing out of ignorance.