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[–] FatherOfHoodoo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't like to keep any security stuff in "the cloud", written down anywhere, or even on my own devices. It's too easy to lose everything after one security breach.

Instead, I use password algorithms seeded from both the service name/identifier and one or more private passwords. This lets me keep thousands of service/site unique passwords in my head just by memorizing twenty or so words.

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[–] WiseassWolfOfYoitsu@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched from LastPass to Bitwarden. I think they're great, being able to use a strong bespoke password for every service along with one nuclear missile arming grade password plus 2FA for the manager itself.

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[–] pacjo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Currently I use Bitwarden on both my phone and my pc, but I'm looking into self hosting it with vaultwarden. This gives you access to premium features (such as TOTP support, for which I currently use Aegis Authenticator). It also gives you full control over your data.

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[–] notavote@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

KeepassXC on desktop with browser plugin, KeePassDX on android I find it less confusing to use than Keepass2Android.

It is only a bit difficult to setup sync, but you can use syncthing, or drive and it works nicely.

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[–] Greenskye@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I honestly don't know how anyone manages without one these days. How would you even keep track of it all? Even if you go the 'same password for everything' route of horrible security, different websites have different requirements for both username and password. Wouldn't be able keep it all straight at all.

I personally use 1password, which is better than Lastpass for sure. Probably not as good as Bitwarden, but I'm too lazy to switch a second time.

[–] kanzalibrary@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know if this totally credible or not, but I found news that KeepassXC receives positive audit from independent security consultant. Very rare to happen in pass manager apps..

I got this news from Linux Magazine first as I remembered, so I think this is credible and best alternative solution for us to use KeepassXC than other (never heard other apps has been audits by independent security firms / consultants like this).

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[–] flickertail@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like the simplicity of password-store. It's just a simple wrapper around a text editor, gpg, and git that allows you to make an encrypted, version controlled password repository that you can sync between devices using GitHub/Gitlab/etc. It also doesn't lock you in to any app since the passwords are just stored in gpg-encrypted files.

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[–] neijzero@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im using KeepassXC and sync it with Nextcloud

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[–] tun@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

LastPass -> Enpass -> BitWarden

Tried KeePass (on Windows), 1Password and pass before settling with BitWarden.

[–] golamas1999@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[–] cullvox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Password managers are a requirement for me these days. With how many breaches occur daily that we might not even know about you probably want a password that hasn't been reversed or used before. For me I don't know what I'd do without Bitwarden. I previously used LastPass until they added some restrictions and I figured out that Bitwarden was opensource. I don't currently run my own instance of it but easily could, keeping my passwords off other peoples computers.

[–] agentnz@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use Bitwarden. Used to use Last pass, but that got crappy a while back.

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[–] Tekchip@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As with most things security it's about assessing your risk.

If you're a granny with a hand full of passwords then a notebook is probably fine.

I think for most people, who aren't CEOs, high value employees, or some kind of holder of the keys to a kingdom beyond their personal bank account, a solid full e2ee password manager that's cloud synced is a nice middle ground of security vs convenience. It beats a post it under keyboard or a notebook left on the night stand.

For those CEOs, or high value employees then something offline is in order. Or as I've seen others note perhaps a combo of full offline and cloud synced for less important logins.

I recommend Bitwarden as others have here. It seems to be the one that's come through unscathed thus far and the company behind it seems to be making the right moves to stay ahead of risks. https://bitwarden.com/help/is-bitwarden-audited/

[–] bladewdr@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

As others have said, bitwarden. I've also heard good things about roboform.

I really love that bitwarden is not only open source but has been professionally code reviewed, and can be self hosted if you've got the knowledge to do so.

Of course, if you're self hosting it make sure you have a solid backup strategy for your vault.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

They're much more than passwords managers nowadays, they're secrets managers. You can't store sensitive info like passport info, insurance cards, etc in a way that you know is safe if you make sure to use a unique and strong password as well as 2FA.

[–] Rob@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lots of love for Bitwarden in this thread; I’d also like to pitch in with 1Password. It’s got a great UX and I even got my mom on board.

Used to use Lastpass since ~2013; really glad I switched last year. Lastpass has turned to absolute shit.

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[–] avail@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1Password family account for my partner and I. Super handy to have a shared vault for household things.

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[–] subspaceinterferents@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I prefer a password with pronounceable content of nonsense words, separated by dashes, with some numbers and symbols in there somewhere. Such as: tostog-Meenish-flurbit-dalsag-3023# . It's long enough to be very secure, and easy to transcribe if I have to type it. None of the words are in a dictionary. I keep a big list in a note on my desktop, and peel'em off as needed, finally keeping the utilized PWs in Enpass.

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[–] mayo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Keepassxc for storage/backup and then I let the browser save the passwords I use. I like this setup.

[–] sma3in@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

switched from LastPass to Bitwarden and I couldn't look left or right

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[–] Yeah2206@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I also use Bitwarden. I would recommend it to anyone who can benefit from a cloud-based password manager because the basic functionality is free and the more advanced features (premium, family) are very affordable.

Using Bitwarden safely will make your digital life safer, but it will most likely be more complicated than it is now. You will need to:

  • Use a randomly generated password for the master password, which is unintuitive but increases your safety
  • Enable two-factor authentication (2FA) for all of your accounts that offer it.
  • Make an encrypted backup of your Bitwarden vault.
  • Create an emergency sheet with your master password, 2FA recovery key, and other important information.
  • Plan for what will happen to your passwords if you become sick or die.

You can think about increasing your safety/convenience step by step by keeping a book of password (which can be lost, so has to be kept secure and probably make backup) with

  1. Random password/passphrase generator
  2. Yubikey + recovery numbers
  3. Drop the book, use an offline password manager (which some consider safer)
  4. Switch to cloud-based cross-platform password manager, which maximizes convenience
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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So happy I got 1Password set up and it has treated me right during the years I’ve used it. I wish my parents had such a thing. They have all the passwords written on a sheet of paper that sits under the keyboard. Like the digital version of car keys up in the visor.

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[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yes. I’m in the free KeePass ecosystem. Self hosted via iCloud and backed up to Proton Drive.

KeePass2Android no net on my Android.

Keepassium on my iPhone.

And KeepassDX on my desktop.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1Password since forever. Can’t imagine having to type passwords or remember them.

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[–] Temezi@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using the keepass format with varying applications for about 14 years. I used to host it in SVN repo for that sweet sweet cloud access! Not that smart im retrospec.. I feel like you shouldnt trust your passwords to the cloud, especially if their thing is password management. Last pass for example is under constant battery from attackers.

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