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I'm looking for an eReader that doesn't lock me into a particular ecosystem or format. Ideally I came just copy files over to it and have them work.

Other than that, small physical dimensions and a backlight would be great!

It's been years since I had one but in the market again and I'm not sure the current state of things. My old one was a Kobo and took files just fine.

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[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still see Kobo recommended these days, so an upgrade might be a good option for you. I use a Kindle, but that obviously locks you in with Amazon. I wish I'd have gotten a Kobo myself.

[–] chickadee@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can you read books checked out from libby on kobo?

[–] Glaive0@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

It occasionally takes some doing, but my wife does! She reads lots of Libby on Kobo and even manga from Libby.

[–] ethan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I’m not sure if it’s the same everywhere but in Canada you can for sure. Kindle has a very slightly better selection (small press horror lit tends to be missing from Kobo) but doesn’t support Overdrive here.

[–] kethali@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My daughter reads a lot of books checked out via overdrive on her kobo (in Canada), though the search feature on the kobo itself is kind of garbage. We have better luck doing a search with the Libby app on a phone, checking it out, then syncing the kobo.

I use a Kindle myself (purchased on one of the good sales for roughly half price), though primarily via epub files transferred to the Kindle using Calibre. It's a busy UI, but it does work well and has lots of features. Pretty good as an archive of your ebook library.

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] chickadee@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s cool, I tried a kindle paperwhite, but returned it because I kept accidentally hitting that stupid power button they put on the bottom right where you hold it while reading.

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ha, yeah I do that all the time. I'm still considering switching to a Kobo once I read all the books in my queue.

[–] Gatsby@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I have a kobo Clara hd and it has the button on the bottom and i do this, its very annoying

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Weird - literally never happened to me because I hold it 4 fingers on the back and thumb on the left edge.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use a Kindle, but that obviously locks you in with Amazon.

On my old Kindle I could connect it to USB and put any books I wanted on it. It supports TXT and MOBI on top of AZW. Is that no longer the case for newer Kindle models?

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I’m not sure. Sounds like I have a project to try this weekend!

[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you want to break free of an ecosystem / format you can go to a brand like Boox or Pocketbook. I have a pocketbook and like it, but some people think they are klunky/laggy (I wanted a smaller, water resistant reader).

I moved away from Amazon because I didn’t like the idea that they could delete or change a book I had paid for and I hated the ads for books/store on my e-reader.

If you go this route you will likely need to get Calibre free software to load books on your reader, so it does depend on how technical you are prepared to be. Not a steep learning curve but there are some recommended plugins, especially if you want to move books that you have bought on the Kindle Ecosystem. You can also go deeper and do things like have the software auto-estimate page # and reading difficulty, as well as implement tagging/organization systems, change/optimize covers, etc.

[–] 73kk13@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

I second Pocketbook.

[–] TiresomeOuting@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, Pocketbook Touch Lux 5 looks pretty good, since it's the smallest one. But water resistance is a good idea, that's why my kobo stopped working actually. And I can't see anything on that model about water resistance. Which did you get?

[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I got the Pocketbook Touch HD 3

[–] infectoid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well this thread seems loaded with kobo shills.

On that note, my kobo is solid and I’d recommend the brand to anyone looking.

However I think Pocket support will be removed soon. Not really a deal breaker for me.

[–] DuskLoaf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nods in kobo.

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

What made you choose Kobo over a kindle? I’m interested in switching to Kobo myself because I think I can view DRM free books on it and the smaller size seems nice.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Haha I was coming in to say Kobo too. But yeah, Calbre + DeDRM + Kobo lets you pretty much drop any eBook you like in there and you're good to go I think.

[–] the16bitgamer@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

An eReader that doesn't lock you into a format doesn't mean much when ebooks from Google, Kobo and Amazon locks you into their DRM.

But let's say you happen to ~~strip the drm~~ find a DRM free source of ebooks like on Humble Bundle and want an eReader and are looking for options.

From looking into myself you have a few options depending on the screen.

eInk:

  • Kobo (Clara 2e/HD)

  • Android eInk tablet (Onyx Boox/Boyue)

LCD:

  • Android Tablet (with KO Reader)

  • iPad (mini)

  • ~~spyware~~ fire tablet


For ease of use the Kobo is probably the best if you are just looking for something the integrates well with everything. But you will need Calibre on a host PC to store and manage your library since Kobo doesn't do that for you.

iPad would be my second choice mainly because of the native apps for each drm. If you dont want to use the native apps, tutorials are limited but the Book app can read any ePub well, and you can sync books with iCloud. That said if you don't want iCloud its a pain in the but todisabled, but iTunes can be used to manually add books to the Book app (or adobe digital editions)

Android is the most flexible but takes more work. A Samsung tablet will be the easiest to buy and run. And each eBook store does have a native app. That said DRM free is where Android shines, KOReader is a fabulous eReader app that supports so much that even the eInk android devices use it. The GUI isn't the best but its functionality is the best.

This also applies to android eink as well. However do not expect software support more than what's already installed. For a phone/tablet this would be a killer (have a likebook stuck on Android 4 with a dead play store) however since ebooks are offline the devices are still usable. If you want anything official... Good luck.


Amazon

While you will see a general consensus that Fire Tablets and Kindles should be avoided I have looked into them and this is my two cents on them.

Kindle - are surprising more usable then a Kobo without an account, but the majority of its features are locked out if you don't have an account. With Calibre you can convert ePubs to Amazon's format since they are rebadged ePubs and the Kindle will read it even if you are not signed in. However I personally don't like the amount of work is needed to use it beyond what Amazon wants you to use it for. And especially out side of the USA the lack of Audio book functionality is irritating.

Fire Tablet - is the most useful of the Amazon devices. It can be used without an account with a lot of work and diligence during the checkout. Since its an Android Tablet you can install all but Googles DRM and even then Adobe Digital editions works on it. SD card storage upgrades are a nice bonus too for comics lovers or audiobooks fans. But you will be missing features until you sign in.

And here's the thing, you may want an Amazon device, logged in since you will have a Serial Number which maybe used to "improve" the usability of your Amazon ebooks on non Amazon devices. Especially when the old gen of tablets go on sale. 😉

[–] otterpop@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Another option would be to jailbreak an old device and install koreader. It works on all kinds of old hardware.

[–] JaymesRS@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

Background: I have been using nooks since they debuted, but my most recent E reader purchase was a switch to kobo (Libra 2). I also have a prior gen Paperwhite from Amazon that I got to make it easier to remove the DRM from Amazon exclusives.

I would say your best bet is still a Kobo. I have 1500 side loaded books from ones I purchased or otherwise acquired prior. With native Libby and Pocket integration it’s almost perfect for wanting to be able to function standalone. And the DRM is easy to remove to future-proof your collection using calibre and noDRM.

[–] OmegaMouse@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've actually been looking into this myself, and Kobo seems like the most 'open' option. The Libra 2 in particular fit my requirements for size and features. It supports quite a few ebook formats but I think it's limited to Kobo's own audiobooks only.

If anyone has one I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

[–] hotwarioinyourarea 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Got one today actually and after removing the DRM from my kindle books. I loaded it up in 2 seconds. I also installed the Amazon and Google ereader fonts because I love Bookerly. It's great so far. Feels nice to hold. It's snappy. 32GB of storage.

Unfortunately at the moment it does only support Kobo audiobooks but it does let you use Libby and borrow ebooks/audiobooks from your local library. I usually use Audible on my phone anyway so I'm not really bothered by that. Would be nice to have though.

Screen is just as good as my Paperwhite with a better eye-comfort mode.

My only annoyance so far is that it's frozen twice which required a reboot. This might be because I've been using I a lot today and connecting and disconnecting from my laptop etc but it's something I'll be keeping an eye on.

Edit: hasn't frozen again in the entire time since.

[–] j891319@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Using a Kindle Basic for a few months and it's pretty great. No issues with side loading via Calibre and it was only about $60. Ads on the cover are a bit ugly, but never seen any in the interface beyond the lock screen.

[–] cdombroski@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure if this fits what you're looking for, but FBReader (Android | Apple) on a mobile device is what I use. It can sync your personal books along with reading position and bookmarks using Google Drive and can access any OPDS catalog. It also supports most (DRM-free/unDRMed) formats

[–] calhoon2005@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I would agree with all the stay away from kindles comments, except for the real easy emailing of books to yourself thing. They're recent acceptance of epubs of a compatible format combined with libgen means it's super easy, and doesn't require a laptop to transfer books.

[–] VirtualGhost@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend checking out any of the Boox ereaders, if you’re looking for an ereader android tablet.

I currently use the Boox Nova Air and I love it, to bits! It has a 7.8in screen, that has warm and cool backlighting. It comes with a stylus, so you can take notes, do some journaling or even draw. I use my Nova air, primarily, to read manga on Tachiyomi app.

There is preinstalled app called BOOXDrop that allows you to select files from your computer or phone and send it to your ereader. I’ve used it a few times to put some ebooks in there, it wasn’t too bad.

Since Boox devices are android, you can pretty much download any app on google play store or you can side load any apks.

The apps I have installed on my device are: Tachiyomi, kindle, Libby, GDrive, Dropbox, OneDrive, Pocket, Foxit PDF reader and Firefox. I use to have Apollo app on there, but not anymore.

I also love that I can put any image as my screensaver, so it’s pretty cool to see wallpapers or screenshots from my favorite manga scenes on there when my device is on sleep mode.

There are newer Boox ereader devices that do color. Would be great for comics, magazines and textbooks. I personally haven’t tried them out yet but I’d love to get one, one day.

If you’re looking for something more basic and intuitive to use, I also recommend the kindle, 11th generation (2022). It’s small, 6in and very light. I still use mine often when reading my kindle collection. I just love how pocketable it is.

[–] Knoll0114@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I second Boox as a decent option (though less polished.) Allowed me to get rid of my dumbass Kindle and Kobo dual set up because if there was a book that was exclusively on the Kindle store I can now just get it in the app rather than owning a whole other ereader. The only thing I don't like about it is it is not as good as either Kobo or Kindle for dictionary lookups. This is especially important to me because I read in foreign languages and need it to be able to either give me a definition or translate it no matter how it's conjugated. I have found the Kindle app for Android though works pretty well for that purpose so there is an ok solution.

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