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Whenever thepiratebay goes down, it is a disaster for me to find anything online. The megathread is next to useless, taking me to all these crazy sites that don't have a torrent option. Instead, they have individual episode downloads of 600 episode TV series. And to access each individual episode, I have to click on a mirror that takes me elsewhere. Then, from that site, I have to click on something that takes me to another site. Then, I have to wait 10 seconds, then I have to confirm the download, then it asks me if I want to pay for premium, then it takes 30 minutes to download one episode.

I'm not actually sure what the community's goal is here. To me, it seems like the entire idea of piracy will go down if thepiratebay ever goes permanently down because this giant "community resource" we have is an utter cluster, with so much garbage shoved in it.

Outside of thepiratebay, how do you guys effectively perform any of the tasks one would want to do on a place like this?

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[–] randomperson@kbin.social 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Using TPB is like rawdogging a hooker.

[–] MadCybertist@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

May be the most accurate description of TPB I’ve ever read.

[–] DoucheAsaurus@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Fun while it lasts, the regret comes later.

[–] artaxadepressedhorse@lemmyngs.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only a problem if you're running executables like cracked games, right? Bc of teh virii?

I would think if you're sticking to books, music, and movies, it wouldn't matter? Unless you're looking for questionable porn I guess, in which case you may come across more than you bargained for?

TPB has always treated me p well shrugs

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is less likely, but viruses can absolutely come in non-executable file types. A quick look at VLC media player's changelogs show that there are a lot of updates to fix security issues. Same with PDF files and security issues in Adobe Reader (to relate to your ebook mention). Can't speak to music, but image files are also a common choice for malware embedding. For a good while the easiest way to run homebrew on PSP was by taking advantage of an oversight with how it handled image files to get it to run unsigned code, and similar exploits exist in image reading software.

The only thing someone spreading malware needs is an opportunity. It's not hard to imagine someone tracking torrents for things like cult classic films and then taking advantage when seeders dry up by uploading their own torrent and faking seeders (or sockpuppeting them by using botnet machines) to get their compromised torrent listed at the top of results for that search. I've lost track of how many times I was surprised to find something I thought was reasonably popular with only 15 seeders. It wouldn't take much to game those numbers.

Hell, it's probably even automatable with enough of a media library and time spent scripting. Theoretically could be a good way to build a botnet, or collect endpoints for a shady residential proxy service.

For the record, I've only had issues with TPB content when I was being unreasonably risky (in retrospect) and my antivirus caught things before I was truly infected.

That said my rambling point is: why take the risk when there's plenty of safer options even just in the public tracker space?

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[–] CapnAssHolo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet only a few of us here use pirate bay these days. Atleast for media.

I suggest 1337 or torrent galaxy. They have seasons packed into a single torrent

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[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are torrent sites on the megathread... You just have to scroll down to where it says "Torrents" rather than direct download. I'll be honest, you come off as a bit entitled in this post. Calling a free resource that someone took the time to make "useless" just because you didn't take the time to scroll down is a bit rude, IMO. Not that I think you meant to come off that way.

Anyway, here's a link to the torrenting section on FMHY's piracy resource list.. The link should automatically scroll down to the list of torrent sites ;)

[–] Elarionus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're right, I don't mean to sound entitled in any way, I'm just...frustrated and a bit lost. And it's hard, because I don't necessarily know where to look for help because the community (naturally) is fairly underground. Even signing up for this and posting this makes me nervous that I'll "get caught" somehow, despite having a VPN.

You're right though, I just assumed that since Torrents seem to be the best method, they'd be at the top. But they're down there, I'm just clueless. I'm already having success with the 1337 site other people recommended though, which is good to know about.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey props to you for acknowledging it, we all have our moments!

I definitely feel you on how frustrating it can be sometimes to access information in the piracy community, both due to potential legal repercussions and to a certain insularity. Pirates don't always want to share the cool new thing, because sometimes when too many people start knowing about the cool new thing, corporations will also learn about the cool new thing and want to shut it down.

1337x.to has been my go-to for a while, I rarely fail to find what I'm looking for there!

[–] rosatherad@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Echoing what this person said! ^

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You essentially said "this", but with more words. Please add more to the discussion by sharing your thoughts on what he said instead of echoing.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your policing of conversation isn't really adding to the discussion either, is it? You could just downvote, or better yet, ignore it and move on.

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[–] pirat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

I used to use TPB until I came across 1337x. It feels more modern and seems to have higher quality downloads, and more recent downloads.

[–] MadCybertist@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

1337x.to is my go to.

[–] topnomi@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I primarily use 1337x.to
The pirate bay has been unreliable for me for years.

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[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago

There is nowhere near enough quality control or moderation of what's posted on TPB. Yeah it's absolutely got more content and even seeders than elsewhere, but you're really rolling the dice.

[–] Sakujakira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

IMHO the great Days of TPB are long over, there are many good alternatives, some are linked in the Megathread.

[–] prettytrucknutz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's fine for movies, music, etc, but it's sketchy for software

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[–] djmarcone@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Use qbittorrent, add the search tool to it, add all the search engines you can, and then let qbittorrent search all the torrent sites for you. Tpb is just 1 of many.

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[–] daan@lemmy.vanoverloop.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

If you're going to use a poorly moderated site like TPB, you might as well go all-in and use a DHT crawler like Bitsearch or BTDigg. On these websites you can find anything. If it's not on BTDigg, it's probably not on any public tracker.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ThePirateBay used to be decent but ever since it went down and now there's 9000 clones with varying sketchyness the quality has dropped dramatically.

[–] div@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Same thing that happening with rarbg, a bunch of clones with dubious torrents.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 12 points 1 year ago

The only thing The Pirate Bay is good for is the occasional old and rare torrent. In basically every other area it has been outclassed by newer sites for years.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

As others have surely said by now, TPB is not safe because they don't do any sort of moderation (or at least whatever they do is insufficient) leading to it being swarmed with infected software.

If you use it for music or videos or other stuff that can't realistically be infected with much (and use a VPN, which you obviously want to always do when using a torrent site but especially when using the most prominent and visible torrent site in the entire world) it is technically safe but there are better options.

Although IMHO the megathread should probably mention it somewhere just in a "here's why you shouldn't use it" sense - I thought it did? Since it's so high-profile that users will probably know about it already and need to be warned not to use it for anything executable at the very least.

[–] Summutton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

I usually go on this order

  1. Look for a reputable site that is specifically for what your looking for. For example if I want anime first place I check is nyaa, or for books zlibrary

  2. If what I want is not there or not enough seeders I check general torrent sites like 1337

  3. If that fails then I check is TPB

[–] LiemPong_Pagong@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

@Elarionus

Everybody, OP is a troll account. nobody ever uses tpb, it is a last resort kind of site nowadays!

[–] pineapplelover@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

1337x for me. Believe me, I've tried to use TPB but it just sucks. It's old and doesn't have the content I'm looking for.

[–] dbemol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TPB is not what used to be anyways

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[–] ThelastfingerofH@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You can use 1337x instead, just the same amount and kind of content but without malware.

[–] olrik@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why not go private? alpharatio, mac-torrents, myanonamouse, PTP, BTN, RED, there are plenty of options.

[–] theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Suggesting PTP and BTN to someone who has never used private trackers before is a bit mean.

[–] olrik@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I guess I'm old, I've been on those for 10+ years and didn't realise they don't allow new members. My bad (no irony, I am actually 42 years old).

[–] theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PTP recently became possible again via RED but it is a loooong road for a new comer.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meh these places seem like little more than a exclusive club that members can lord over the outsiders. I've had little issue finding content using a mix of 'B tier' private trackers and public sites, none of which had some long convoluted membership process. I don't think they're worth the trouble.

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[–] d_bradr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I never really looked into PTs, I just found stuff on GOG, 1337, Dodi and FitGirl. Gotta give PT a shot one of these days. Same as usual, Qbit for DL just from different trackers?

[–] theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TorrentLeech (TL) is currently having open signups with the invite code: REFUGEERARBG. Just make sure you read the rules. Also let me know if you have any questions.

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If I remember correctly the Pirate Bay moderation is considered to be of poor quality, they said it's easier to run into viruses over there.

[–] sewashi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TPB used to be great once, now it is riddled with malware. There are safer alternatives like 1337x, rutracker & torrentgalaxy etc

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[–] ericthegrim@waveform.social 4 points 1 year ago

Pirateproxy.live is nearly 100% reliable for me 🤷

I don’t use it constantly but I never have issues finding what I’m looking for

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