“Protest and dissent is important,” Huffman said. “The problem with this one is it’s not going to change anything because we made a business decision that we’re not negotiating on.”

Protest is important, just not against us.

Can I just say thank you to all of the journalists protesting against reddit with the tools they have available? Most articles I've seen are pro reddit community or barely neutral. Dozens of news sites are involved, from left and right news sites, to finance magazines, to explainers like Reuters and NPR. Multiple articles a day are keeping this at the forefront of everyone's mind - especially spez and potential investors - as well as ensuring the whole thing stays transparent. I've seen a few articles that link directly to lemmy and kbin signups too 😊

“Protest and dissent is important,” Huffman said. “The problem with this one is it’s not going to change anything because we made a business decision that we’re not negotiating on.”

Honestly, my reply to this particular statement is that maybe Reddit should die!

Oh well, here I am, glad to join this ship. I just want a reliable place I can further geek out on mechanical keyboards, memes and news. I hope we migrate somewhere cause reddit does not look like it has a bright future.

But Huffman says the “pure infrastructure costs” of supporting these apps costs Reddit about $10 million each year.

Eh, so although, according to him, the third party apps cost Reddit 10 million per year, he still decided that 20 million a year from a single third party app developer is reasonable? I think he needs to learn some basic math...

I’m old enough to have witnessed the early beginnings of the Internet in the 90s - and what’s happening now with the fediverse feels like coming back to its roots.

We may well find that the implosion of Twitter and Reddit - within 6 months of each other - is the beginning of the end for “big tech”. It’s unlikely that it will go away entirely but I do feel a seismic shift happening. I seriously hope that it’s not a false dawn.

Yeah. Shit is really going down on reddit right now. Spez is trying to paint this as "power hungry mods are closing down your favourite subs. Let admins control reddit more and we'll stop the power mods". Sadly, it really seems to be working for a lot of people. Classic tactic of the ruling class turning people against one another to distract while they fuck people over. Its like the iq of the average redditor dropped over night.

What good will outrage/protest do? It's time to migrate. Reddit was built by volunteers who can build it again. Lemmy seems like a good choice, but time will tell if it can be the next front page of the internet.

I’m definitely not going to download the official reddit app, I’m done with it for good. Lemmy’s mobile website is good enough for now, hoping that the Apollo developer decides to make a Lemmy client eventually

"...we made a business decision that we’re not negotiating on."

Great, then I'm not negotiating when I say you're a shite CEO and I'm done with your crappy website.

This whole debacle will end up being a MBA case study in a few years on how not to work with your user community.

Huffman totally doesn't get that the conflict isn't about Reddit wanting to charge for API access. That in and of itself is fine.

It's how they're going about it, starting with "We're going to start charging you in a month, and just five months ago we said we weren't going to be charging anything for the foreseeable future," followed immediately by Huffman being a human-shaped turd very loudly at every chance.

Now Spez is sucking off Musk in the media talking about how Twitter's "cost cutting measures" were genius, firing most of your staff is never a genius move.

Should be edited to say Diggs in Heels

The blackout probably won't result in Reddit failing, but he has to realize that if he keeps this up, it's only going to take some aspiring programmers/designers some time to develop more Reddit alternatives, and when one of them becomes viable, down goes Reddit.

When you start to talk about share holders more than your users, then you know you are lost.

“I think every business has a duty to become profitable eventually — for our employees shareholders, for our investors shareholders and, one day as a public company, hopefully our user shareholders as well,” - quote from the article

I'm hoping we'll soon need our own r/LeopardsAteMyFace just for this.

edit: typo

"... not going to change anything"

Yet look what happened to the fediverse. I wouldn't be here without his boneheaded move. So it already changed things for me and thousands more like me. I don't plan on going back.

This, combined with some other news stories explicitly mentioning Lemmy as an alternative, is a very positive thing for the community here.

protest isn't really a big deal.

The big deal comes when people work to do the same thing on other platforms.

• Then we'll find out what Reddit is really good for.

Oh, and Quora, and Google, and Meta, and Twitter.

Remember, do it in Firefox - not Chrome.

"We've made a business decision we're not negotiating on" sounds an awful lot like "we don't negotiate with terrorists".

Is that what we are Steve-o? Reddit terrorists?

Fucker has lost everyone now, Digging the hell out of watching reddit fail because of mismanagement now. You don't double-down when you rely on your users to create your company.

What an idiot.

Missed opportunity. It should have been spelled: "Reddit CEO Diggs in heel ... "

Lol, fuck spez. I've used reddit since 2011 but this debacle has been the last straw for me.

Finally realized how to sign up for Lemmy. Federated ftw. Insurance against this kind of stupidity.

In my opinion even if he changes his mind and tries to backtrack, the damage is done, for sure.

I love that he clearly thinks Reddit is too big to fail, which isn't true of anything, no matter how popular...

Investers are gonna see yet another mindless man child ceo