this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2023
443 points (98.3% liked)

sh.itjust.works Main Community

7728 readers
1 users here now

Home of the sh.itjust.works instance.

Matrix

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

(page 3) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] L0Wigh@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Defedarating for political reasons seems stupid to me. If it's proven that the community is toxic and full of trolls, that is an argument to do it. Anyways, as other said, for now I don't think we really need some more defedaration drama

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I agree holy shit I went there today and there was some hateful af stuff

[–] NabiscoShredderWheat@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 18 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Listen cupcake, you wanted decentralized freedom. This is what it looks like. People you don't agree with exist. Grow a pair and block them yourself.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] carrot@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (29 children)

No, don't defederate. Just because an instance doesn't align politically with your views doesn't mean that they have to be gone. And we should definetly avoid a mastodon blocklist situation.

If you refuse to meet someone on level ground because you consider them intolerant of your own ideas, you're the one being intolerant.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Why should the ground be lowered to a level that fits the criterias of bigots?

load more comments (11 replies)
load more comments (28 replies)
[–] Kichae@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

No. Nazis need to be blocked by the instance admin. Otherwise, it's time to look for a new instance.

[–] Codo 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah okay I get we’re all upset but he has read the patriot act, so…

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I often hear the argument "they'll just go elsewhere," "they'll just start new accounts," etc, to defend not censoring/defederating/blocking/whatever fascist or proto-fascist people or sites. That's not an argument, that's a commitment to rolling over for fascists and intolerance. They're bringing the fight, and not fighting back and making their lives harder is just helping them move the Overton Window further to the right, and making horrific ideas palatable.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] InfiniteVariables@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (28 children)

IDK why people are thinking he's gonna de-federate for transphobia when he has allowed the matt walsh documentary to sit on his instance for days now

load more comments (28 replies)
[–] madception@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

KBIN.SOCIAL users, this is the post URL: https://kbin.social/m/main@sh.itjust.works/t/39264/Hey-could-we-defederate-with-exploding-heads-com#comments

It means it is on sh.itjust.works instance! It is NOT kbin.social post, even if you can see it from your instance! Speak to your own kbin.social admin if you wish to defederate from exploding-heads!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (13 children)

No, don't de-federate. If you don't like it, block it, easy as that.

Lemmy is meant to be better than reddit, which means dealing with opposing views. If they're triggering or offensive to you, block them.

[–] Quinnel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That means running the fediverse on non-proprietary software, not forcing the end-users to interact with conspiracy theorists

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to be better, just different. While I'm never going back to reddit, if the one who owns the server makes a choice on the content of their server, I can decide whether or not I agree and stay or move. THAT is what's good about this system. You can stick to the instance that follows your ideology.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (11 replies)
[–] sixdix@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

My experience with exploding-heads is they are mostly level headed serious users and not trolls at all. Defederating because one person had their feeling hurt is dumb and ruins the fediverse for everyone

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

To me, Exploding-heads are on the other side of the same coin that Beehaw exists on in regards to fringe exteme ideologies and sensitive emotionally fragile admins. Defederating them both is pretty fucking dumb because it will create echo chambers that will in result churn out more idiots. Just block them via your preferred instance.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] kraken@u.fail 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it would be better, to be able to block a whole domain/instance per user, like we can do it with communities

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›