This was basically force the admins of reddit to remove them as mods... going to annoy a lot of people but its not going to magically cease reddits operations.
this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2023
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Agreed, but when that happens, regular users will see that the admins will just change mods without mod or user consent. For some that might be a final straw.
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I’m honestly super surprised by this. I assumed the mods of the big subreddits were in kahoots with the admins or were Reddit loyalists or something
Things would definitely be better overall if more people had a spine to stand by their principles, or have some in the first place.
I closed r/skookum early, just couldn’t take the suspense anymore. New Skookum: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/33682
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I'm not super technical but can someone please explain why the third party apps can't just require each user to enter their own oauth token? That way all the API calls get tied to the users instead of the app and there's no cost. Am I misunderstanding something?
It's a good point, and could alleviate things a bit, but its not easy and still would have problems. The root of it is that there's a rate limit for normal accounts in the new data api, so you would quickly get a message saying you've done too much in one minute and basically stop working. This also assumes the app can move over to a user provided authentication within the time window of one month. Given many of the big apps use support servers thar help manage the api calls (such as apollo's), this can be a big ask depending on how it was coded, especially when they didn't need to in the past and have built up around the lack of a need for oath for a decade. There's also an education process to get users to request and wire in the oath (could be done well, but it would be much rougher than today).
Additionally, there is still the censorship of nsfw posts, which enforces a walled garden, so third party apps would always be inferior. This sets a precedent more so than a problem, because next up could be whole subreddits being omitted from the api because of future reason here.
Also there's legal concerns it might bring up like stated by andrew - https://radiation.party/comment/21117
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Apps are registered with a unique key per app, which devs have to get and use. Then, each app authenticates the specific user that is using the app.
Having users provide their own key would probably be considered circumventing the developer terms and open themselves up to a lawsuit
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