this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2023
475 points (96.5% liked)

Ask Lemmy

26980 readers
1761 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I have noticed that I interact a lot more in Lemmy than I ever did in any social media. Let it be Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter... I am used to be the lurker, but here for some reason things are different. Wonder if more people feel like I do.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Life_Inst_Bad@pricefield.org 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like you are more encouraged to interact here. Like you're helping the fediverse grow. The other thing for me is that people seem to be much more civil then in other places. So yeah I feel the same.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Like you're helping the fediverse grow.

It feels like a civic duty.

From what I see, Lemmy is just at the edge of "not enough content". So many communities have one or two committed posters. So I comment as much as I can and post when I see something interesting.

[–] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For me it's the gonewild subs... Once you start getting regular content there and they expand out to gonewildcurvy or bdsmgw or 30sgonewild etc you'll really see lemmy take off.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

They've had some issues with that though. lemmynsfw was heavily defederated from others over concerns about CSAM being federated, and after that lemmynsfw had much more mild porn.

Personally, I think that as long as porn is still freely available via old reddit without logging in, then it won't take off much. Also, we're in the post-Only Fans age, so it's unlikely lemmy will ever get that "pure" gonewild feel that reddit had, as almost every user that posts their own porn is now doing it for money.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

That's the thing I find so surprising. There are so few NSFW posters. Porn pushed a lot of technical and economic innovation online. If Lemmy can't get traction on adult content, we're in bad shape.

/s (mostly)

[–] BigPapaE@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If you build it (the porn) they will come

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago

I’m doing my part. soldiers laugh

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] BoiLudens@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yea I’m pretty much of the same mind, anything that can encourage content on here the better

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With reddit having way more people and being only a casual browser, I would never make it early enough to a post to contribute in a meaningful way. Whatever I would have said would be commented dozens of times before I got to the thread. At best my comment wasn't made yet, but I'd be sure someone with more knowledge on the subject would've contributed in greater depth soon.

Here I see plenty of posts hours old with no comments. There's a greater chance whatever I might say won't get buried or overshadowed.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because a lot of stuff is fresh you get a lot less of "This was asked last week, next time use the search bar" kind of stuff too

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny enough, this question is asked every few days it seems.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I do, and it's not for entirely altruistic reasons either.

When I'd open a thread on reddit, if I wasn't there within the first hour of being up or first dozen or so comments, it was almost guaranteed that whatever I said would get buried and the effort I spent formulating my comment would basically be wasted. So there was very little incentive to engage with meaningful discussion just for the sake of discussion. On Lemmy, most posts struggle to get over a hundred comments at most, and even more struggle to get past ten. So, if I spend time developing my reply, I have a higher chance of that comment getting seen and other people in the community engaging with me, which is the entire point of leaving comments, IMO.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Comments here are more meaningful for being rare. Even comments disagreeing with OP or replying from a different point of view are often well thought out and meaningful.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] vsh@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not even comparable to reddit. Like 80% of posts I see are blatant political propaganda or rants at the system, the other 20% is memes and Linux discussions. Where are the niche communities we all wanted to see? Oh right, they are so niche that they are dead 👍

[–] PurpleTentacle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It certainly doesn't help that Lemmy had and still has absolutely no sensible way to actually surface niche communities to its subscribers. Unlike Reddit, it doesn't weigh posts by their relative popularity within the community but only by total popularity/popularity within the instance. There's also zero form of community grouping (like Reddit's multireddits) - all of which effectively eliminates all niche communities from any sensible main view mode and floods those with shitty memes and even shittier politics only. This pretty much suffocated the initially enthusiastic niche tech communities I had subscribed to. They stood no chance to thrive and their untimely death was inevitable.

There are some very tepid attempts to remedy this in upcoming Lemmy builds, but I fear it's too little too late.

I fear that Lemmy was simply nowhere near mature enough when it mattered and it has been slowly bleeding users and content ever since. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, though.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Dogyote 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy feels very different to me as well. People seem more mature, skeptical, genuinely left-leaning, interested in discussion, and the moderation isn't totalitarian. Plus Reddit really seemed like it was controlled by moderators with an agenda. I'm not a flagrant asshole (I think), yet I was banned from a few subreddits for not following seemingly arbitrary rules. For example, I was banned from my city's subreddit for making a post asking a question that wasn't directly about the city, it was more about the state's culture/history. I just wanted to know what my neighbors thought. Apparently someone decided that wasn't what the subreddit was for.

[–] yiliu@informis.land 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People seem more mature, skeptical, genuinely left-leaning, interested in discussion, and the moderation isn’t totalitarian.

You've finally found the right echo chamber for you!

Kidding, kidding. But really, I don't find people on Lemmy that much more mature or skeptical than Reddit, and I've had fewer productive discussions (though those have also been rare on Reddit for several years now). It's definitely more left-leaning, though.

Moderation seems more friendly, though, I agree with that.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You want an honest answer?
No. No I don’t.

I comment and share links at about the same rate as I did when I was primarily on Reddit. I’m less interested in Reddit these days and probably split my time 50-50. I’m pissed at what they did and continue to do, and the quality of the content has clearly taken a hit across the broader Reddit community but it’s still SO MUCH BIGGER than the entire fediverse that there is hundreds if not thousands of times the people and content.

I’ve tried to get a couple of groups off the ground, but I’m just not that guy and wasn’t on Reddit either.

I am not commenting on Reddit much anymore tho, due to the aforementioned behavior by Spez et al.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] AceSLS@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I certainly do. Most social media algorithms feed you content that it thinks will generate interactions. Lemmy does not do that which results in whatever you decide to post having more meaning because there's no stupid and/or manipulative machine deciding wheter your post is or isn't worth seeing

[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I findyself upvoteing way more on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit.

[–] e_mc2@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I have read so many thoughtful comments on this thread that made me say to myself "Yes, that. Exactly that's the reason I mostly rarely bothered formulating a comment or opinion on Reddit." The whole atmosphere on Lemmy seems so much more mature, considerate and genuinely interesting to read. I really hope we can maintain this as Lemmy is (hopefully) growing.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 13 points 1 year ago

Yes, definitely by a huge margin

Partially because I feel like people will actually notice, partially because I feel more a part of a community due to the smaller size and seeing the same people multiple times

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On R×ddit, I wrote about a scary experience I had and posted, not thinking much of it. Weeks later, someone in a server I frequent sent me a YouTube link and asked "isn't this you??", as they recognized my R×ddit username. It was a video of someone reading out my post and giving it much more exposure than I would have ever wanted.

It spooked me to realize that R×ddit is now just a content farm. Posts will be picked up for videos, news articles, Facebook fodder, etc. Most of that shit is 20000% fake anyhow. What's even the point?

Give me a smaller community any day. The moment people start farming Lemmy for content to read out in their YouTube videos? That's the moment I bow out.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

A LOT more. It's also in part because I'm not being stalked by Nazis which I was on Reddit, but I feel so much more comfortable talking here in general.

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] uncreativechap@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, I'm a lurker by nature. Back to my hideyhole I go.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Absolutely! Less trolls, real people with real opinions make for a far more interesting community to be a part of.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the reasons I'm more inclined to interact on Lemmy/Mastodon are because, firstly, the fact that we were all attracted to the fediverse means we instantly have something in common in addition to whatever subject matter our chosen instances and communities focus on.

Secondly, the communities are a lot smaller—for now. This could be a temporary thing if Reddit continues hammering nails into its own coffin, or the fediverse might be niche enough that it never becomes as massive. But right now, posting a comment on Reddit feels like shouting into the void whereas Lemmy is like tossing a message in a bottle into the ocean. Neither are great for communicating, which I have always felt is the biggest problem with this format compared to classic message boards; but at least the message in a bottle is more likely to wash up on a shore where it might be seen.

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yes and no. Reddit has more niche interest groups that don't exist here.

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, definitely. I'm more willing to share my honest opinion. For me, the fear of downvotes was real. I also sorted Reddit posts by Hot, and I rarely felt motivated to connect on a post that already had 1000 comments.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Zink@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I am far more interactive on here. I was almost exclusively a lurker on Reddit.

[–] BastianAI@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Compared to reddit, yeah, kinda. On reddit it often feels like it's not worth it commenting on a post if it's popular and 14+ hours old. On Lemmy I will see new comments with the default sorting of comments.

[–] pascal@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I interact less on Lemmy compared to Reddit, mostly because people here seem to be very vocal and polarised, so every time I have a notification in Lemmy I start groaning "oh god what did I say this time?"

But still, Lemmy is the cradle of humankind and wisdom, compared to Instagram and Facebook.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

not really, I mostly interacted with niche communities on reddit that haven't made the switch

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes.

I've always disliked the current state of social media, because it always felt like everyone is shouting at each other rather than talking to each other. That's why I like having penpals to writing letters back and forth and shoot the shit on whatever, and I've blamed Facebook and Twitter for killing that.

I lurked reddit anonymously but I don't comment much, because it felt like the only place that you can discuss various topics with random people and learn cool things. But part of it is that slowly, it made me miserable, the hivemind with all the arguing and smugness and unfunny one-liners and most of all, the cynicism.

This place is a bit different I think, I really didn't expect to get as involved as I am, but it kind of brought back that feeling of writing back and forth to random people and having a conversation again.

I've made it a goal to read and write more and talk to more people when I have the time to spare right now.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Way more. There's lots of genuine posts on here and not karma farming bots. Also, my posts in c/lockpicking and c/balisong actually got replies fairly quickly. On reddit, I would've been met with downvotes or people who don't even interact with my posts.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 8 points 1 year ago

Yes.

Sometimes it's corny or a little bit flamey though, but that actually feels like I'm discussing with real somewhat (we're on Lemmy after all) random people.

100% would discuss again.

[–] batmangrundies@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, folks are super reasonable compared to other social media sites, for the most part. The occassional nutter isn't propped up by some PR company bot net to drive engagement so they just end up downvoted into oblivion.

It's refreshing.

[–] peterpayne@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, but I did here for you :)

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

There are fewer people at Lemmy who only exist to blast threads with tired old jokes and memes so there is room for well thought-out comments to get more visibility.

I come here for discussions and so far most of the posts seem to welcome it, leading to more desire to engage.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

In my decade of using reddit, I very rarely posted and maybe commented a couple times a week. I was a certified lurker. In the months of using lemmy, I became a mod for a community, comment nearly every day, and have far surpassed the number of posts I ever made on Reddit. Lemmy is just a nice place to be, and I like interacting with people here

[–] theletterw@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Not yet! A lot of my interests aren’t as easy to find on Lemmy yet, but I’m definitely on here more than Reddit. I’m not really a community leader type but I can definitely be in the hype squad.

[–] S_204@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Less. There's less developed community in my interests. Heck, even the football channels are quiet today.

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I was pretty active on reddit also

[–] Senseless@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah not really. I only ever used reddit and YouTube. I'm not the kind of person for social media. When u/spez had his fit and the subs went on strike I quit reddit, because I don't like to be pushed around and getting screwed by some greedy corpo prick. Also, privacy. I rarely ever post something myself. I mostly write comments. But the amount of commenting is the same here as it was on reddit.

I just heard about LibRedirect, so that's the next step to give less data to Google.

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Dude, yes. I feel more comfy here than in the corporate hellscape of centralized social media apps

[–] eric@014450.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

Yup, the people here are cooler

load more comments
view more: next ›