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Antiwork

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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Date Created: June 21, 2023

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The Anti-Work Library πŸ“š
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The main rules of the server will be enforced stringently. https://lemmy.world/

2. No spam or reposts + limit off topic comments

Spamming posts will be removed. Reposts will be removed with the exception of a repost becoming the main hub for discussion on that topic.

Off topic comments that do not pertain to the post at hand may be removed if it is deemed they contribute nothing and/or foster hostility at users. This mostly applies to political and religious debate, but can be applied to other things at the mod’s discretion.

3. Post must have Antiwork/ Work Reform explicitly involved

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[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Isn't this an ai image? Seems a bit counterintuitive to this sub.

[–] vodichar@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Rotten_potato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's not about copyright, that's a burgeois invention. It's about attribution and alienation, with AI the act of working (creating the images that feed the neural network) is completely decoupled from the product (whatever the giant heap of linear algebra cobbles together). That's the issue, not some capitalist's loss of rent-seeking opportunities.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stolen how? What specific works are being infringed upon?

[–] vodichar@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I couldn't name you the specific works this particular piece has blended together, but all AI "art" is made by mashing together actual human work.

[–] HongoBongo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As a (bad) hobby level artist, I'm well aware my art is probably best described as mashing together other's actual human work. But I kind of think that's true for everyone. You always see influences and borrowed concepts from other's past works in new art. If your work is posted publicly, you can't be surprised when another artist sees it and is inspired by it.

In my opinion, we already have copyright protection against AI art, it's the same you would use against anyone else. If you can show that the generated artwork is a derivative work, it's a problem and they've violated your copyright.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is not accurate. AI art is not "mashed together" but rather inherits techniques and creates new images.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Any work used to train the AI without first acquiring the proper license from the license holder.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Here for more accurate results there's a field on that website where you can specify particular AIs.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because you didn't personally steal the goods someone else passed on to you, it doesn't suddenly make them not stolen goods.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling things stolen without evidence does not make them stolen. That's just kindergarten level finger pointing.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're being obtuse. The evidence is the AI itself. It is trained on existing pictures and doesn't just "dream up some art". Its all copied and pasted from somewhere. If you actually knew how the tech worked you would know this. But I suspect you actually do and are arguing in bad faith.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spoken like someone with no grasp of what AI is and is capable of.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

as a comp-sci major: Spoken like someone with no grasp of how AI is and is capable of.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WOW, didn't expect the anti work group to be so into capitalism.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is what happens when people don't actually read any theory, they think that capitalists working to steal work (art) from workers (artist) is anti-capitalist

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Okay. 🀣