Enough Musk Spam

What a disingenuous statement. By not agreeing to do it he is complicit in major acts of war, i.e. whatever attacks the Russians do with their fleet. What a tosser.

Uber wealthy private citizens able to control the path of wars in countries they don’t live in.

That’s some dystopian shit.

The way he phrases it is as if Ukraine asked him to enable them to make the attack. They asked him to switch it back on, because he had explicitly disabled service in the area, after giving the devices to Ukraine in the first place.

"If I had agreed to their request, then spacex would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't SpaceX be explicitly complicit in conflict escalation by interfering with Ukraine's ability to defend itself?

Elon doesn't get it. He is neck deep in it. With his denying he helps the Invaders whereas with his allowance he would have helped ukraine fighting for their freedom.

He should be put on a list now imho.

Alternate take: Elon Musk knowingly and intentionally prolonged the war in Ukraine. Sinking the Russian fleet at anchor would have been the most expedient way to end the war with as few casualties as possible. It's really really hard to fight a war without a navy.

The last time we capitulated to a dictator who invaded Europe, they didn't stop with just the first invasion. Just because Putin has threatened to use nuclear weapons doesn't mean we have to roll over for him and give him an easy win in Ukraine.

Fighting back counts as escalation?

The crazy thing is that the Air Force, Army, and just about every other branch of the military has contracted or is looking to contract with Space X to get Starlink. He doesn't have a problem with providing the US with that capability because we're not in direct conflict, but will deny it to ukraine when it's in Russia's favor.

After this I, I would totally re-look those agreements.

Government contracts for Starlink services

And now he is complicit with numerous ship-based missile attacks on Ukrainian civilians.

How is counter attacking an aggressor's military targets "escalation" ?

I think the fact that to Elon Musk the morals of this are confusing to him, says a lot about who he really is.

Or rather confirms what many may have already expected for a while.

Russia started an unprovoked war against a peaceful neighbor. Ukraine is defending themselves, while Russia can end this instantly, by merely going home. How can Musk doubt the Ukrainians right to defend themselves?

As I see it, he can only do that by having no empathy or sense of morality, something he has shown in many situations now.

Also the escalation thing is a very clear Russian and Putin talking point. Russia call it Ukrainian escalation even if Russia did the same 10 times worse. The only escalation of this conflict is 100% due to Russia being the aggressor and their continued aggression.

How is he not in jail already?

I just can’t get my head around this.

The fuck ist happening here

Part of me thinks that, based on his conduct over the recent years, Elon Musk is exactly so stupid that he never considered that if his company supplies gear for a military, they're going to use it to do, like, military shit, and now he's having a real crisis of conscience because he just never thought that his stuff would be used for, you know, war.

But on this occasion, I'm pretty sure Hanlon's Razor won't apply. Even if he said "Yes, I've been really really stupid about this and I'm a stupid little boy and you can quote me on that, put it on a shirt, make a Netflix documentary about it while you're at it", I'd still think this is is obviously a smokescreen and he's being Putined one way or other.

This whole thing has made me so angry, I'm so upset about this.

Musk doesn't have the power to to stop Russian ships attacking cargo vessels in the black sea so he shouldn't be stopping Ukrainians from fighting back - in their own territory.

Musk is partially to blame for the lack of food coming from Ukraine. He's responsiveness got higher food prices.

This is an absolute act of evil stupidity.

If I had a product, I wouldn't want it being used for war either. Know how id handle it? By not accepting millions from the Pentagon in the first place

"There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate maritime support all the way to Normandie.

The obvious intent being to invade most of Nazi Europe.

If I had agreed to their request, then my company would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation."

Said the businessman, clearly not a member of the ANP

I also know for a fact that elon won't hesitate to do something for Reason A and communicate Reason B as his motivation.

Dear Mr. Zelenskyy,

If you decide to make Elon Musk a wanted man for interfering with communications infrastructure and wartime military goals, let me just put out there that you have my thumbs up.

~ A nameless internet user.

Elon is such an insufferable twat.

He protected militants participating in an attack. This resulted in thousands of civilian deaths by prolonging the war.
That's the only way to look at this.

He's scum.

A few years ago, I saw a SpaceX press conference about the state of the space launch industry. One of the questions asked, by a lady with a heavy Slavic accent, was whether Russia and second-world countries would be allowed to engage in cooperation. The answer was no for reasons of national security.

Now SpaceX has a self-declared wartime Russian agent at its head. How the fucking turntables.

Is he a registered foreign agent ? This needs investigated for criminal activities.

either way you participated, you just made the wrong choice Mr. Musk

It's well past time to nationalize Starlink.

I could be wrong but doesn't this boil down to how the internet as a whole is used as in it's not the fault of the isp/website what the users do

So would elon accept responsibility for terrorists organizing on his site?

That explains why you would turn it on. Now explain why you turned it off

Musk just opened himself up to an act of retorsion. Ukraine can go as hard as they want to after him, because the rule of proportionate response doesn't apply to acts of retorsion.

I am sure that piece of shit would have had absolutely zero problems helping Putin attack the Ukranians though.

Im surprised the DoD isnt pissed at him.

Can we just send this pathetic traitor to Russia and be done with it

I have a slight inkling that someone has some serious dirt on this dude

When is he going to jail again? He profited from selling overpriced stocks and colluded with enemies of the state.