this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2024
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Police lie under oath, a lot

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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The woman, Talisa Coombs, told Delaney she’d just gotten into what she alleged was a physical altercation with her granddaughter’s mother, Maria Pike, and called 911. Independence police’s response to that 911 call ended with the shooting death of Pike, 34, and her two month old daughter, Destinii Hope — who were identified Tuesday by authorities from the Police Involved Investigative Team, or PIIT, a team of eastern Jackson County detectives called in to investigate police shootings and use-of-force incidents.

The officer who fired his weapon was “a long-tenured veteran of law enforcement,” Dustman said. That officer and another two who were at the scene are on administrative leave.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article295483354.html

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[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 25 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

this ‘news’ site is trash, fucking constant text disruptive ads

fuck this garbage, 5min and had to re focus text like every 30 seconds

[–] FuCensorship@lemmy.today 22 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The Internet nowadays without an ad-blocker is an absolute cancer.

I'm not sure if you're on a PC or mobile but check uBlock Origin for Firefox(PC & mobile) or AdAway for Android on F-droid.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I have a apple phone because of family and the ios ad block options are bad but thankyou

ads are a scourge

[–] TheLightItBurns@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with your statement that the ad block options are bad. If you have never heard of it, the Orion browser from the Kagi search engine company will let you download and use Firefox or Chrome extensions. I have the Firefox version of uBlock Origin installed and it does work. Maybe not as well as the Android or desktop browser versions, but it does the job. All free as well.

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[–] Pappabosley@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Or Vivaldi browser on mobile or desktop

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[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 46 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I hate how much the police worries more about their egos and asserting authority than de-escalation and service to the community. They seem more emotionally unstable than the people they are supposed to help.

If that’s the response from an experienced officer, then there are serious issues with the whole system. There’s a baby on the scene and still their first impulse is to pull the trigger. Fuck them!

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 18 hours ago

I bet the dispute was over afterwards.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Let me guess: the two month old failed to comply with the officers order to stop crying?

[–] Gort@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

Maybe dribbled the wrong way. Baby spit can be a projectile...

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 20 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Never👏
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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 13 hours ago

Idk sounds like the mother in law called the cops, and we all know how mother in laws tend to be

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[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago

Lock 'em up

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

Feels like these things are starting to ramp up again. (Even pre-election, I'm not laying this on that.) Can't imagine the horror.

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