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Got the new ThinkPad T14s Gen 6 AMD, AMA. (lemmy.ca)
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Just got it today so I haven't had much time to play with it yet. But feel free to ask me anything about it and I'll answer when I can. The model I got has the non-touch 100% sRGB 400 nits display.

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago

every time i see a thinkpad i'm reminded of my first IT job cannibalizing hard drives, keyboard, screens, touchpads, and pointers from other broken thinkpads to save money and make the department's budget balance a little bit better while the company raked in billions of dollars every quarter.

i mean to sound nostalgic more than bitter because it was FANTASTIC company to work for at the time and things like the smell of a brand new thinkpad out of its plastic or the sounds of keyboard snapping into place and the black & red aesthetic always takes me back like some old man remembering better days. lol

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Under Linux (Kernel 6.11.8), everything works flawlessly out of the box. The only issue I noticed is that the fan runs constantly. The CPU temp could be as low as 36 degrees and the fan would still be running at 2400 RPM. It's not loud or anything though. Not sure if this is related to the Platform Profile in the kernel, or it's a bios issue. Either way, I hope it gets fixed eventually.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How much do you love the new CoPilot™ key?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

LOL. I use Linux so it's pretty useless to me. At least they didn't remove the right control key to make room for it like they did in the new X1 Carbon! I'll probably find a good use for it by mapping it to some shortcut or modifier.

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I ran some benchmarks to check the performance and the CPU wattage. In Cinebnech R23 10 mins run I got 10935. Temp at the end of the 10 mins run was 73. So I suspected it wasn't pushing as hard as it could then I found a "smart cooling" setting in the bios. After disabling that I got around 1200. Could still be better because the CPU temp was the same in the end.

CPU package power as reported by hwinfo64, settles at 22w after around 4 minutes. Before that it stays between 26-28 watt with CPU temp in the mid 80's. Then it settles at 22 watt (with CPU temp at 73 degrees). So it seems to be that the cooling system is capable of running this at at least 25w sustained. I'm hoping a bios update down the line will take advantage of the thermal headroom.

[–] minamoog@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

can i have it?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

I'm liking it very much so far, so I'm afraid not.

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

New thinkpad sounds like an oxymoron

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What CPU and what's the battery life? (that might take a bit)

Also what's your opinion on the notch?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

CPU is AMD Ryzen AI 7 PRO 360. It's too early to form an opinion about battery life, but so far it seems promising. As we speak the battery life is 67% and it shows 7 hours remaining. This is on Linux mind you, and I'm not doing anything heavy. Will report back tomorrow.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What OS do you plan to run?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fedora Silverblue 41.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Noice Immutability, id be intreasted to see how the hardware support is?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

It's flawless. Tried Fedora 40 live image and I think the iGPU wasn't recognized because Gnome felt sluggish and there was no animations. Fedora 41 obviously has a more recent kernel and everything worked just fine.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can you remove the keyboard like you used to?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

No, not without opening up the laptop.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

You'll need to go through the back and remove at very least the main board to get to keyboard

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Drools at 880M

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hell yeah, brother. Not at good as the 890m but it actually seems to be very close. Judging by some benchmarks I've seen on Youtube, it's only around 5% slower than the 890m, at least at this wattage.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I currently have a 680m and rock it for most things so can only imagine how much better the 880 would be.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What is the model number? It should be a 4 digit number on the sticker on the back. That will help me look up the specs. Does it have a swappabe battery like old thinkpads? I'm not sure if they have gone completely to internal ones. Thanks.

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Couldn't find a 4 digit number on the back. But the part number on Lenovo's website is 21M1001WUS. No, it doesn't have a swappable battery. As far as I know, there hasn't been any model with a swappable battery for many years now.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

21M1001WUS

Thanks. I guess mostly, do you think it was worth the expenditure? My current daily user (X220) is pretty trashed and I'll need to replace it soon, and am thinking of getting a refurbed X13 or something like that, in the $300-500 range. Older laptops have been fine for me but maybe I'm missing out on something without realizing it.

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would say the T14s gen 4 is a better investment if you're on a budget. It can be had for almost half the price of the Gen 6.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hmm 4th gen is still pretty expensive, esp considering the smaller ram and SSD, but will consider. Thanks.

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/thinkpad-t14s-gen-4-14-inch-amd/len101t0080

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did you consider any other laptops like the Framework? How long are you hoping for this to last?

I'm considering getting a less beastly computer and am strongly considering AMD for the first time. Is this your first AMD?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

I did consider Framework, but I decided to go with ThinkPad for the trackpoint, keyboard, and build quality.

This isn't my first AMD laptop. I prefer AMD for the iGPU. Although Intel is now catching up in that aspect. So for current gen CPUs I don't really have a strong preference. If the T14s gen 6 was available with Intel CPU I would've gone with that for the slightly better iGPU.

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you a child of divorce?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, you?

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope.

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sad.

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago

If you wanna know why I find that a funny response to an ama:

https://youtu.be/RIsJlAnhssw

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What is the screen resolution? Particularly wondering if it is 16:10 proportions like some new thinkpads.

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

1980x1200. Yes it's 16:10. It's 60hz only if you're wondering. I like the screen. Colors are vibrant and blacks are deep.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can you upgrade anything in it? Also is build quality good or is it floppy and bendy?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Only the WAN card and the NVME. RAM and Wifi are not upgradable.

Build quality seems to be very good. On par with my last X1 Carbon Gen 9.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't get why Lenovo hasn't adopted CAMM2 for the Thinkpads, upgradable ram should be considered a bare nessesity for a Thinkpad

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

P1 gen 7 uses CAMM2 if I'm not mistaken. T14 gen 5 (but not T14s) uses SODIMM so I suppose it's possible gen 6 will switch to CAMM2.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The RAM is upgradable in the new T-Series ThinkPads, both sticks, which is really cool.

Edit: seems like it's not upgradable on the T14s... It is on the P14s AMD and they share the same chassis I think. That's kinda strange.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't even change the SSD?

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, you can. It's not a MacBook....

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's the thermal situation like? I recently bought a P14s (I can post a review if anyone's interested) and decided to go with intel seeing as Meteor Lake seems oddly more efficient than Zen 4 when it comes to laptops.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Will you run Linux on it?

[–] zaidka@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Yes. Will be running Fedora Silverblue 41.