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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 51 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Pretty sure Mohammad didn't have strong opinions regarding internet privacy.

[–] ByteOnBikes 7 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I'm pretty sure Mohammad, Jesus, Buddha, and all the other gods would be concerned if they saw my porn history.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

That's the beauty of religion - if our gods and prophets did not materialize to contradict what we are saying in their name, that means they approve.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 46 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No it isn't. The right to privacy is protected in Shariah law. Either something nefarious is at play here, or the religious body was misled on what VPN is.

Sources for those not familiar with Shariah law, I actually studied it and was tested on it:

https://www.al-islam.org/islam-and-rights-privacy-territory-abbass-khajeh-piri/realm-privacy-islam

and this is from a Pakistani university:

http://www.sbbu.edu.pk/actaislamica/vol%2005%20issue%2001/Right%20to%20Privacy%20A%20Comparative%20Perspective%20in%20Law%20&%20Shariah.pdf

[–] ashar@infosec.pub 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's the government's pet religious authority. They will produce any opinion that the government wants. Is there a name for these kind of scholars in Islamic history?

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

Yes in Arabic they are derogatorily called وعاظ السلاطين the sultans’ preachers.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm really interested in reading the part of the Quran that forbids VPNs.

[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"Thou shalt not taketh sponsorships from NordVPN"

[–] ByteOnBikes 7 points 6 days ago

"In this religion, we use ExpressVPN!"

Quran, probably

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 6 days ago

NordVPN is a scam, they will prevent you from cancelling your plan

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

For context: this "religious body" is governmental.

In pakistan, military has gotten so powerful that they literally kidnap and torture you for being critical of them. And if you live outside pakistan they kidnap and torture your family members, demanding you to remove your posts.

And recently pakistani people have started to become more and more anti-military. So they are using VPNs to hide their identity to protect themselves.

This "religious body" is making it seem like this is to stop porn but in reality its about stopping people from being critical of military rule.

Edit: they banned twitter in february because people were organizing anti-military protests there. So the people started using VPNs and now they want to ban VPNs.

[–] ByteOnBikes 10 points 6 days ago

I wonder if me, and American, looking at Pakistan is like how Europeans look at America... Government and police are crazy. But the food, culture, and people are probably nice.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 51 points 6 days ago (2 children)

US Christians: "write that down!"

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The "protect children online" act or whatever. Ugh.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 7 points 6 days ago

KOSA. But yeah, same level of religious fuckery. They want to impose big brother because it's easier to root out dissent.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

Won't be long now, unfortunately.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You know I am starting to think maybe this modern Islamic law is just not very good.

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 12 points 6 days ago

Something something sneaking into other people’s houses is haram therefore VPN is haram?

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anything is against religious law if you try hard enough.

Actually, you don't have to try that hard 🤷‍♂️

[–] ByteOnBikes 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You challenged religious law. That's against the law.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

You are being excommunicated for resisting excommunication!

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Thank the Biden administration for overthrowing Imran Khan in Pakistan to install this dictatorial regime.

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