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The argument being made is a rather poor one. In the example given, the waiter walked 10 feet to you, I would agree that you shouldn't have to tip.

I'm ambivalent on tipping culture, if we can institute a fair minimum wage then I'm fine with getting rid of it, if not then shut up and tip. All that said, the things we tip for has gotten way out of hand. Tipping used to be 15% for good service while some people were giving 20% because prices had remained low. Now with food prices increased businesses and wait staff are encouraging 20-25% and tipping options are being added everywhere.

My rule of thumb now is 20% for standard wait service (taking my order, bringing my meal, refilling beverages, and cleaning the table afterwards). If any of those elements isn't being fulfilled then I do not give a percentage, though if someone is going around filling drinks I'll probably leave a dollar or two. I also don't give a percentage tip for drinks that don't come with free refills, instead I will calculate the 20% tip without those beverages (typically alcohol) and then leave $1 per drink.

If you don’t like paying for service don’t go out. This is the way that it is and these are likely the guests that then get on Yelp and complain…about service. You can adjust minimum wage all you want but professional waitstaff aren’t going to pander to the wealthy for minimum wage. Minimum wage service sucks as it should, you get what you pay for; minimum wage, minimum effort. If you don’t like the system, change it, don’t victimize your fellow workers. They accepted the job under this current system. I’m in that system and am working to change it but until then if you don’t tip due to your high moral standards YTA. And it’s not because USians are stoopid (we are), it’s just the ingrained culture. Under capitalism the guest will be paying this money regardless. Much like this fauxmockracy, your choice is an illusion…

Id be amazed if a single commenter in this whole thread has worked in hospitality in any capacity, let alone waiting tables.

Most of these comments make me wonder if the poster has ever even once had a good night out at a nice restaurant.

Disclaimer: I live in a country without a serious tipping culture. But still...

If you live in a place where food service workers are underpaid and you don't tip, you're an asshole. This is not a morally defensible stance unless there is a system to protect those workers already in place.

YT things