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[–] echo@lemmings.world 152 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

presidential endorsements create the "perception of bias"

You know what else creates a perception of bias? Meeting with Trump right before withholding the Harris endorsement.

Also... bullshit... it's amazing how many people just get their marching instructions from their preferred newspaper. They don't even pay attention. They will literally tell canvassers that they will decide who they are voting for based on what the paper says.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They don’t even pay attention. They will literally tell canvassers that they will decide who they are voting for based on what the paper says.

I had a conversation with my dad recently about it. he's been a life long republican. In any case I had to remind him that I told him in 2016 that Trump was quoting hitler almost-verbatim. The only difference was that a) it was a more or less direct translation into english, and b) 'jews' were exchanged for 'muslims'.

he also kept demanding sources and I'm like 'the source is trump speaking. trump said that himself. this is a direct quote'. (for example the 'Dictator on day one' comment.) same goes for political violence. same goes for everything in the 2025;

like fucking hell, it's exhausting. I tossed in the source on Fox being a right-wing propaganda rag for good measure.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

When a conservative asks you for sources, they do so in bad faith. They don't care about engaging with reality. It's a deflection tactic.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. That’s exactly why he’s voting for Harris this time around. All those bad faith arguments.

No, but it took a while to get him off Fox News. He didn’t vote in the 2020 presidential election either (or maybe he voted for some other republican jackass. I forget.)

He grew up thoroughly republican. It’s taken a while to break the brainwashing, but it can be done.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They will never even look at the source. It goes beyond simple lack of curiosity, their brain has created a sort of defense mechanism that will prevent them from ever actually comprehending that they could be wrong about something. So they will do everything to avoid being in a situation that could lead to them learning something new.

Because nothing is more important than never being wrong about anything, ever.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

"if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"

-Rush

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

The Washington Post already carries a perception of bias for the Republican party, a Harris endorsement would have potentially balanced that somewhat.

This statement doesn't even stand up to the flimsiest scrutiny

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 84 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Now more than ever the world needs a credible, trusted, independent voice...

I’m not sure he understands the meaning of “independent”.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But he's nailed "voice" at least though, right?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 73 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So didn't the crucial reporting of Woodward and Bernstein exposing the Watergate scandal on the pages of the Washington Post show bias against Nixon, Jeff? Would you have stopped that reporting had you owned the paper in 1972?

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Then wait until a non-election year to do it

Democracy dies in cowardice

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 55 points 3 weeks ago

WaPo endorsed other candidates for office in this very election cycle. "All of a sudden" when the editorial desk wants to endorse Harris, it's "OOOHHHHHHH NOOOOOOO WE HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT!"

[–] TrainsAreCool@lemmy.one 48 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck you, Jeff.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

Bezos is a fascist

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck off Nazi, never another penny

[–] vovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 weeks ago

"Democracy died in broad daylight"

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

If there are two parties, and one says it's raining, and the other says it isn't, it's not the news media's job to give an unbiased report on the debate, it's their job to look out the fucking window and say whether or not it's raining.

[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tax your rich assholes America.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Been trying to I promise! Trouble is, the rich assholes took over the asylum

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 20 points 3 weeks ago

"Democracy dies with billionaires."

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

God he is such a fucking tool, and he doesn’t even realize it

[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure he realizes it. What he doesn't want is for everyone else to realize it too.

[–] nepenthes@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Guy has totally bought his own press.. wait, what

Jokes aside-- Fuck Bezos. I hope him and Musk get their just desserts.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Huh. Weird. Bezos’s face is different from how it used to be. He’s definitely gotten gender affirming surgery (testosterone or some cheek squaring plastic surgery)

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

He's going full lex Luther

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

His wife already looks like a Barbie doll.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

World's second most punchable face.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would say third, after Donald and musk

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Donnie's got Il Duce face, which means it's more kickable.

[–] tquid@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

It would similarly look better upside down

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ajit Pai will always have the worlds most punchable face.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

Lol. It wasn't the "Washington Post" who decided that. It was the owner.

[–] grrgyle 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Smells like an anti-editorial absolutist. Wow so objective. Much truth.

Wtf is wrong with being biased against out and proud fascists.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's not even bias... My hatred for fascists is well-founded, thank you very much

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Dear God, his transformation into Dr Evil is nearly complete!

"I'll give you an endorsement for Harris... For ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!! Muahahaha!!!"

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"Dave Limp, the chief executive of one of my companies, Blue Origin, met with former president Donald Trump on the day of our announcement," Bezos wrote. "I sighed when I found out, because I knew it would provide ammunition to those who would like to frame this as anything other than a principled decision. But the fact is, I didn’t know about the meeting beforehand. Even Limp didn’t know about it in advance; the meeting was scheduled quickly that morning. There is no connection between it and our decision on presidential endorsements, and any suggestion otherwise is false."

"Presidential endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election. No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are going to say, 'I’m going with Newspaper A’s endorsement.' None. What presidential endorsements actually do is create a perception of bias. A perception of non-independence. Ending them is a principled decision, and it’s the right one," Bezos wrote

"Who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?"

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

how exactly is it that any kind of endorsement creates a “perception of bias”? is he trying to argue that all opinions are biased? and if so, why doesn’t he say anything to support that claim?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Guys, relax, what I did was totally the right thing to do, The New York Times is about to post 5 articles about it.... or else.

  • Papa Money
[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I would read what he wrote, but I already canceled my subscription. Alas.

[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The number of subscriptions has gone down by 10% already. That's what happens when billionaires interfere with media, apparently.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

People should hit him where it hurts, Amazon.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

If literally nobody gives a shit about the endorsement then blocking it is a pointless gesture and not going to increase credibility with anyone by his own admission, Is what I would say if it wasn't obviously another billionaire oligarch putting his finger on the scale of democracy then saying it isn't or it's justified.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Is this Streisand effect going on? By not endorsing they got more people engaged then if they had?

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago

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