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[–] huzzahunimpressively@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (18 children)

I'd like to know how many times a civil with an AR-15 has saved the day.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Basically never because they are ridiculously impractical for normal to carry around so they are virtually never available for anything to even think about using.

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[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What's funny is that I read "police shot attacker 98 times" as they shot one person 98 times. lol

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I took an active shooter training class at our sheriff's dept some years ago. At the end they had a Q&A period, and nearly all the questions were coming from obvious gun owners who just wanted one of the deputies there to give them the ok to shoot during an active shooter event, just some sort of official recognition that they were in the clear to do it. The deputies weren't having any of it and the farthest they would go was, "You do whatever you feel is necessary to stay safe and protect yourself." I'm assuming they couldn't endorse vigilantism or for citizens to be bringing guns into active shooter situations, since even the firearm accuracy of cops is supposedly only ~30%. The people in the crowd kept coming up with ever more wild scenarios, just trying to get somebody to tell them it was ok. "You're telling me, that if there was an active shooter that had your wife and kids hostage, and I'm standing there with a gun, you wouldn't tell me it was ok to take the shot?" was one question I remember a guy asking. It was like, they're obviously not going to tell you what you want to hear, can we move the fuck on?

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But that's their dream and soul purpose in life...to shoot a minority bad guy. You can't just dismiss the negligible chance that that gets into that extremely convoluted situation.

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[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 10 points 2 months ago

The most 'Mercan thing on the internet today.

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] AdComfortable1514@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

So its 64-131 between work done by bystanders vs. work done by police?

And casualty rate is actually lower for bystanders doing the work (with their guns) than the police?

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