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Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 258 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Fucking Spotify using my money to pay this nutjob really pisses me off

[–] 8bitguy@kbin.social 87 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Vote with your wallet. Deezer is pretty good. I switched to them when Spotify decided I needed Rogan in my life despite their algorithm undoubtedly indicating otherwise.

[–] mr_sifl@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I switched to YouTube music and have been happy with it. The family plan is about the same price as Spotify and includes YouTube premium which has been an unexpectedly nice bonus.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 1 year ago

Stop paying for, and using Spotify. That way you know that you aren't supporting him.

[–] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I switched to Tidal when he first started going on with the COVID misinformation. Haven't looked back.

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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 162 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Its a “fact” that anyone who listen to Rogan is a peasant-minded moron

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pesant-minded

My comrad in class, unless you are a multi-millionare we are all peasants together. Many of us have excellent minds, as you likely do yourself. Do not tie our mental capability to our economic caste.

[–] birdbrain5381@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"my comrade in class" needs to be the 21st century replacement for "my brother in Christ" and you just made me make my first Lemmy comment!

I'm using this!

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[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] akai@kbin.social 104 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's a fact that Rogan is a brain-damaged conspiracy theorist

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Rogan flips like a light switch. One day he's all about the science and the next he's got some mouth breather telling him the moon is made out of cheese.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's playing both sides. Like any corporation, the goal is money. He knows there's money to be had from the right. He might be trying to get that tucker Carlson demo. Bringing in interesting guests like scientist, philosophers, etc. Just keeps the general public from leaving outright.

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[–] Duder167@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

Stopped listening to him when Bill Burr told him to shut up about Covid. This wasn't a false flag and if it was instigated by someone then Donald Trump was apart of the plan because we all can watch the video of him telling his supports to march on the capitol and fight. None of it is ridiculous in the scope of how that party was going and none of it needs further insight. A brain dead party is making it up as they go and making a lot of mistakes along the way.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was all Epps who sent out the tweet telling everyone to come to DC on 1/6 and that it will be wild.

Then Epps stood up in front of the crowd and gave that speech about how everyone had to "fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore!" and then told everyone he'd march with them right down to the capitol to force a halt to this Constitutionally mandated process...

Oh, wait, no, that wasn't Epps. Who was it again?

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop paying attention to him. He was over validated as being a great interviewer, but that's only because he created a safe space for right-wing reactionaries to pander to conservative bros. His takes are trash, his hyper masculine routine is tired and lame, and he is a regular source of immediately debunkable misinformation.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 29 points 1 year ago

He's a terrible interviewer. I attempted to listen to one of his podcasts many years ago because the interviewee was someone I was interested in. Joe Rogan quite obviously had no fucking clue about the specifics of why this person is notable, and his line of questioning was uneducated and irritating.

I never tried to listen/watch to Rogan again.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I wonder sometimes if he is actually stupid and actually believes some of this stuff or if he just says outrageous shit to get people to listen to his show.

So he’s either a fucking moron or a fucking troll, neither of which I’d wanna listen to.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He's stupid. He used to think the Moon landing was faked.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rogan gets dumber all the time

[–] 2ez@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Same with his fans.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I had never heard of Ray Epps before, but it's the ultimate leopards ate my face situation. Dude bought into the Fox News propaganda so much that he attempted to overthrow the government. Then Fox News accused him of being an FBI plant, and now all his fellow right wing nuts jobs have turned on him accusing him of working for the FBI. Meanwhile, he's still being prosecuted for his attempts to overthrow the government.

Fucking hilarious. I'd love to buy this idiot a beer just to hear how much he fucked up his life.

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[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

What a fucking idiot. What is it about being a reality tv star that gives these medical grade morons the idea that they are smarter than everyone else? I mean the public getting fooled sure, that's in the editing and show runners keeping the idiots on the rails. But the idiots themselves thinking they are the smart ones? it boggles the mind.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It's a fact that Joe Rogan is an idiot.

He even said so himself. Literally: "I'm just an idiot, you shouldn't listen to me." He said that in a stand up special. It's still true, too, so I don't know why people even listen to him. He specifically requested people not to.

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[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joe Rogan is an idiot and can just fuck right off

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[–] BuckRowdy@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Rogan should be deplatformed. We don't have a robust enough education system for 'free speech' to work when people like Rogan are just lying to people.

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[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Rogan, who signed a $200 million contract with Spotify in 2020, has repeatedly embraced the unsubstantiated claim that federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies used “agent provocateurs” such as Epps to manipulate the crowd to attack the Capitol. In past episodes, Rogan said the intelligence community had a “vested interest in this going sideways,” adding that “if somebody wanted to disparage a political party or to maybe have some sort of a justification for getting some influential person like Donald Trump offline, that would be the way they would do it.”

What a slimeball

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's just pure gaslighting. "That time you saw Trump tell people to march down to the Capitol after telling them to "fight like hell" was totally unrelated to what happened at the Capitol a short time later."

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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 50 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I keep trying to give Rogan some slack, I've been listening to his podcast on and off for a decade now and it just gets harder and harder to excuse him. I genuinely understand someone having a distrust for 'the narrative' . What I don't understand is how someone could do both that and then immediately trust the very next narrative that comes along. It seems naive and laughable.

Keep talking about chimps and DMT, Joe for fucks sake

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[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

A fascist runs defence for other fascists, no surprises here. He's been doing fascist dogwhistles for years and years, for example:

"Surf the kali yuga" has been a fascist dogwhistle for a very long time.

Maybe not enough by itself but when you combine it with everything else it's pretty obvious what he is.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The funniest part is that boomers were arguably the "weak men" living in the "good times" created by the "strong men" who pushed some of the most progressive policies America has ever seen. They created the "bad times" of out of control capitalism that we're currently living in.

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[–] mindbleach@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ignoring the obvious - provocation and false flags are polar opposites, you dunderfuck.

Agent provocateurs go into sincere crowds and start shit to escalate what they're already doing. (Or to justify violence against the crowd, because "someone" threw a rock.) It's an agent, singular. An opposing individual in disguise shapes perception.

False-flag attacks are done by an opposing group. And they do the thing, themselves. They're not goading a crowd into escalating, or inviting violence from undisguised opposition. Sincere individuals are completely optional. The action is performed entirely by people acting under someone else's banner. You know. Like the name.

If if was a false flag, you'd want these assholes in jail as badly as we do.

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[–] Ton@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Remember kids, if you use Spotify; your coins are going to this ass hat.

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[–] Llamajockey@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was seeing less and less crazy from Rogan on the spotlight, thinking maybe he turned a new leaf and would focus more on just interviewing and comedy. And then he comes out like the most idiotic imbecile in all of media again.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So, it's not Antifa but "our good ol boys being tricked by those dastardly Feds"? Why not it was the ayylmaos all along?

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[–] LexiconDrexicon@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's all just money $$$

I mean don't forget Tucker Carlson used to work for CNN. These people will do anything and say anything for money

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[–] zaph@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (38 children)

So the FBI, the one that was ran by a trump appointee, staged a false flag coup. And instead of doing something to stop it trump did nothing. And I'm supposed to believe democrats are responsible? If democrats managed to infultrate the FBI and attack the capital why was trump too incompetent to do anything about it and why did he care that someone died if she was just antifa pretending to be a trump follower?

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And his fans will eat this shit up too. Shameful, just shameful.

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[–] CoolBeance@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I had a hard time understanding why people would listen to Rogan after reading all these articles about him. Then my wife and I talked about it for a little bit and I took a listen to an episode of the Joe Rogan Experience.

I'm completely talking out of my ass here but I think Rogan is a good/influential conversationalist. I think people get carried away by his views because of the convenience of his skill, kinda similar to how some people tend to err on the broad side of being agreeable when talking to a stranger for the first time, at least in a North American context. Set up the "conversation" as a podcast and it's easy for familiarity to build with his audience. People getting familiar with his content then subconsciously decide that they really agreed in the first place because he talks nice and now they're a fan.

Great orators are amazing at getting you to nod your head in agreement. I've "fallen victim" to it as well with Obama in his 2004 DNC speech. Just rose tint everywhere. It's a little easier to understand through this but of course I am so open to being completely wrong about this. What do you guys think?

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't listen to this prick any more but does he ever spend much time going over that Trump possibly put federal agents lives at risk for selling secrets to the Russians and Saudi governments? Or that Trump's children stole so much money? Does he ever?

Turtle Shelled Stomach'd prick surrounds himself with sycophants nowadays anyways.

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[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 25 points 1 year ago

Spotify owns this mess.

[–] calhoon2005@aussie.zone 23 points 1 year ago

I say it's a fact that he's an idiot.

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