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[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It should be worth 5 points (half a goal, so it functions as a tiebreaker), but still end the game when caught. That way, the team in the lead is trying to catch it, and the team that's behind is trying to prevent the opposing seeker from catching it to buy time to close the gap. It's still important that way, you can't win the game without it, but the rest of the team is also contributing.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Plus, when there are positions on the team whose entire goal it is to beat the shit out of the other team, it makes sense that you'd want to split their focus between scoring points or ending the game. As-is, there's no reason a beater should be trying to do anything other than beat the shit out of the opposing seeker.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think it was just a contrivance to both make a sport for the books while also allowing the Main Character to automatically be the most important person all the time (like basically everything else in the books).

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah the truth is that Harry is more or less completely useless at anything other than quidditch in the books. He's just a symbol that actually talented people rally around

[–] rob64@startrek.website 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Functionally, he's good at being reliably moral. See: the mirror of erised, the second GoF task, going willingly to his death.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Reliably moral by traditional wizarding standards*. Hermione is more reliably moral by standards external to the wizarding world.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hermione blackmailed a journalist and kept her in a jar for several weeks. The following year she cursed a fellow student and left them permanently disfigured. I'm not sure that I would consider her more reliably moral... a good person overall, but with flaws.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Idk, just because she doesn't turn into a human welcome mat doesn't make her immoral. And Rita is as much a journalist as anyone on Fox News is, which is to say, not at all. Hermione recognized that nobody would do anything about Rita spreading her harmful bullshit and took direct, decisive action.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I read that part as a(nother) self insert for Rowling venting about tabloids which were absolutely writing about her at the time.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He's kind of a dick though...

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Fame went to his head for a bit there, then he got pissed that everyone had opinions about him....kinda like a certain author I know of...

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Reading Enders Game after reading the Harry Potter series felt like those were two opposite ends of the spectrum.

Harry was special because fate made him special and all things revolved around him regardless of his actions.

Ender was special because the author said he was the smartest kid in the room and all things he did worked because if it didn’t work, then he wouldn’t be the smartest.

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

With both written by hateful, vitriolic turds.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website -1 points 6 months ago

Man, fuck that main character. He owned a slave and became a cop.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They need to up the intelligence on the snitch. Make it so hard to catch that it hardly ever happens. Seekers now spend most of their time as normal players, while keeping an eye out for the snitch, then darting away every once in a while for a catch attempt

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That was my take when watching the movies (never read the books). I figured the snitch was near to impossible but Harry just had main character syndrome, being able to actually see the snitch.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah harry is just cracked at the game for no particular reason (never even flew before he went to Hogwarts)... they allude to some quidditch games lasting days, at which point 150 points isn't a big deal anymore.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

never even flew before he went to Hogwarts

Or so he thought. We later find out that Sirius sent him a toy practice broom for his first birthday. Harry could have had three months of practice at a very impressionable age, which could account for some of his "immediate talent" when he gets to Hogwarts.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

DH10, in Lily's letter to Sirius:

Dear Padfoot,

Thank you, thank you, for Harry’s birthday present! It was his favorite by far. One year old and already zooming along on a toy broomstick, he looked so pleased with himself, I’m enclosing a picture so you can see. You know it only rises about two feet off the ground, but he nearly killed the cat and he smashed a horrible vase Petunia sent me for Christmas (no complaints there). Of course, James thought it was so funny, says he’s going to be a great Quidditch player, but we’ve had to pack away all the ornaments and make sure we don’t take our eyes off him when he gets going.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Totally forgot about that, thanks! I kind of like that it implies that he has a natural talent with the broom.

I'm often hesitant to dismiss skills which can be acquired through practice and persistence as "natural talent", but in this case, that could be a valid interpretation as well.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

This helps but doesn't address the other issue, which is spectators can't see anything related to the snitch.

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Another way to balance would be to simply make it not an instant win. Instead it's just worth a large amount of points, but the other team could still win if they score enough before the game ends.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's technically not an instant win, just a ton of points and an instant end to the game. In a lopsided enough match a team could catch it and still lose.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

In a lopsided enough match a team could catch it and still lose.

That literally happens in the books

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It's not an instant win. It's already 150 points and an instant end to the game. It usually happens that whoever catches the snitch wins, but not always. See: Quidditch world cup in Book 4 of the series.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Goes well with the rest of the writing.