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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 142 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The humor is way more redditty on lemmy. Which I realize sounds nonsensical, but a huge portion of lemmy users are former reddit users who both think reddit humor is funny and have like 10 years of reddit humor memes to draw on. The “early” (2012ish) reddit I’m remembering had less of that and a lot more of what current users would consider cringe, like f7u12 comics. And a lot more general weird nerd awkwardness… like the frozen soap post.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A lot of early reddit humor was 4chan/9gag humor though.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago

Oh yeah, don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely not saying that reddit was a bastion of original comedy. It just didn’t have what I would call reddit humor at that point in time because that took a decadeish to get to where it is now.

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[–] BassaForte@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Rage comics aren't cringe. If anything, a lot of modern memes are just reskins of rage comics.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Rage comics at least took some thought to put together. I still think they're pretty cringe but they're way better than replacing the text on a tired meme template and calling it content

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Honestly miss rage comics, most of them were pretty cringe and reskinned 4chan greentext but there was a surprising amount of creativity and humor that could be put into them when people were doing more than just following a formula for imaginary Internet points.

Thinking of things like the time someone did the entire Bohemian Rhapsody song in rage comic form.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Reddit in 2010-2012 also had a lot of really insufferable atheists everywhere. Someone would say something like "thank god everyone's ok" and get downvoted while a bunch of people replied stuff like "if god is responsible for them being ok, then he would also be responsible for the crash and shouldn't be thanked at all".

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a queer trans dude who grew up in a deeply southern baptist community in the rural south, nobody is ever going to be able to make me care about atheists saying mean things about Christians online ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I maybe didn't use the best example, but it was less about people actually being religious and instead if they used any sort of popular phrasing that had any slight religious element they would try to turn it into a religion debate.

A better example is that someone might post a polish word, someone else would reply "bless you" acting like the polish word was a sneeze sound, and then the 14-year-old atheists would descend and start a debate.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I definitely remember some of that and being annoyed by it; sorry for misunderstanding your first post, I’ve run into a lot of people who are weirdly defensive of how society being more overtly Christian back then was good, when it was absolute hell for some of us.

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[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Lemmy has its own version of that with self declared "leftists"

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[–] atocci@kbin.social 12 points 5 months ago

I can look at the earliest posts and comments on my account from 10 years ago and cringe at my past self. I'll definitely be able to do the same with this account in the future haha

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 months ago

Reddit as it became mainstream turned more into 9gag where everyone is just doing the same jokes for best results. Whenever you have some sort of score, you will have people optimizing for that.

Because in Lemmy upvotes don't matter so much, I notice that there's less pressure from people to rehash and repost memes and jokes.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 60 points 5 months ago (13 children)

There's no jailbait, no upskirts, no fatpeoplehate, so Lemmy is still better

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Right why would we want to be that

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[–] kromem@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago (9 children)

No, Reddit 10 years ago was the kind of place where people who knew things would correct people who didn't.

Pretty much all social media today, including Lemmy, are now places where people who don't know things correct people who do.

[–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are you sure it isn't just a case of you having seen it a thousand time now and can spot bullshitters and couldn't do it a decade ago?

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago (1 children)

not really. earliest days of reddit didnt even have subreddits.

lemmy cant be reddit 10 years ago, because the internet has changed in that time too

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Subreddits were added in 08. The great Digg migration was 2010. I feel old.

[–] dumples@kbin.social 19 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I was part of the great Digg migration and now the great Reddit migration....

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Shit, I remember Fark.

Which was basically what reddit was when it started, fark just stayed that way. I think it's even still going...

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[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

DAE member Digg? I member that.

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[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No. Not even slightly. Fifteen years ago reddit was still far bigger and more active than the fediverse.
Here there's barely any content today, back then I was regularly getting 30+ pages deep into reddit when I couldnt sleep most nights, and I wasn't even close to the end of that days content.

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[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

No. I'd say the whole internet felt different 10+ years ago. Including this, what people are on here and how they behave. And I'd day the average intellect is different. But that could also be me growing up.

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[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I feel like Lemmy has WAY more crazy political views, like extreme leftist and BoTh SiDeS people. That’s probably more of a symptom of Russian propoganda across the wider Internet that wasn’t as prevalent 10+ years ago.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We barely talked about politics at all back when the great Digg migration happened. People were interested in far more fun things back then.

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

a symptom of Russian propogandm

There it is. All you needy to say really.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Not really, it's way more decentralized than reddit.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (14 children)

And there is a lot less users.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eh, if you go back far enough, there was a time when reddit had fewer users than the fediverse has now.

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I was on reddit 10 years ago. Different vibes than old reddit for sure. Still way less users on Lemmy.

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[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 20 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I wonder how the shift from Reddit to Lemmy compares to the shift from Digg to Reddit.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lemmy has a much smaller user base

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 19 points 5 months ago

I am a much different person today than I was when I started at reddit so many years ago, so that might have something to do with my assessment, but --

Federated social media today is like what reddit was maybe eight years ago. Fills a hole, bearable, occasionally really good, but still a lot of shitposting and propaganda. Ten, twelve and more years ago, reddit was a really good place. As above, maybe it's because I was younger then, maybe it's because the world has changed so very much in the meantime. I'm sure those play into it, but in any event, it was better then than the fediverse of today, content-wise.

[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been on Reddit for 16 years and I’d say yes it’s very similar. Like Reddit back then it was very tech focused and quite liberal.

I do think people are a bit more vicious online these days than they used to be and a bit more polarised.

From a content perspective there used to be more blog content than tech news content, but it’s fairly similar. What I like about Lemmy is it’s far less commercial and the conversation is more genuine.

However I don’t think Lemmy will become Reddit in 15 years, I think it may languish in eternal obscurity and I’m actually okay with that.

Reddit exploded when Digg crumbled and the same could happen with Reddit crumbling but idk, there seems to be some stickiness to Internet websites these days.

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Regarding stickiness, perhaps it’s because the internet is ubiquitous now. Fifteen years ago, those of us on Fark and Digg and Reddit came to the internet for a lot of things. Notably, we kept in touch with friends that way (MySpace and Facebook) and in particular, we got our news that way. My parents were incredulous forever and still kinda are that I “don’t watch the evening news.” Now everyone uses it for everything. The big difference is that the early adopters are naturally more open to change because they adopted something that was a change. The rest of the population was slowly pushed into it. Now they don’t want to leave the sites that they’re used to (e.g. Reddit and Facebook) because they aren’t that open to change in the first place.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

No, absolutely not. Lemmy is held together by "it's not Reddit" while Reddit was "here's this cool stuff!"

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Close…but no.

Reddit was good for some fresh content, but a decade ago it was still a lot of bots and karma whoring taking over, reposts, and people falling over themselves to be the first to make the flippant quips that got all the upvotes on any topic. Reddit still did have all the nsfw/nsfl subs then, so there was still a little Wild West left in it.

That said, Reddit very much still had a community feel to it a decade ago. IMO that’s completely gone in all but the niche subs that are there specifically for the community. You don’t get to have conversations there much anymore. It’s usually someone deriding you pretty quickly when they disagree, and the downvote button is the first thing hit.

Lemmy is IMO still trying to settle on what it actually is. I think it’s better than Reddit was a decade ago because people are more inclined to converse than quip (though that very much does happen) but the low hanging fruit comment doesn’t always get the most upvotes, which is really nice. I enjoy that the fediverse is a group of connected communities rather than a bunch of communities all under one roof like Reddit - but I guess that’s the point, isn’t it?

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

Way smaller.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Never will be what Reddit was or is, because it's based on federation and defederation.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty much. At least Lemmy is a lot more like Reddit was when I started on Reddit (~2015), than Reddit is now.

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[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Lemmy's far smaller than Reddit was 10 or even 15 years ago.

There are some good foundations in place, but there's a loonnnggg way to go before we're seeing platform maturity.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

No, it's better.

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago

Kinda got the same small in crowd vibe as old 2012 reddit, but less big and more jaded.

It's big enough to binge for a few hours but you do run out and got to wait, I was in withdraw for a little. Mods, mods never change.

[–] Toes@ani.social 10 points 5 months ago

It's probably better than old Reddit.

Just keep in mind you're participating in a federation of communities controlled by the many. Although Lemmy.world is probably the largest by far.

[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No but hopefully it is something better than Reddit has ever been. It’s awesome watching the community grow and cater to more niche interests.

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