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How about the democrats actually run a candidate with just a modicum of character and integrity rather than threatening people into voting for them. It should be easy to win against someone like bush or trump and yet they are consistently close races. Thats on you democrats.
Democrats aren't threatening anyone. Explaining the reality of electoral politics is not a threat.
Their election position basically ‘vote for us or else the orphan crushing party will be in charge’. Not very inspirational and rather threatening if you ask me.
It's just a fact. They're not the ones putting the orphan crushing party in charge.
But they are in charge of the opposition they provide. They have chosen to merely be ‘not the orphans crushing party’ rather than something better.
I am pretty interested to see that me and @lolcatnip@reddthat.com explaining this tactic, did not do anything at all to deter multiple people from blandly employing the exact same tactic in replies.
This comment is also pretty fascinating, there's a slight but noticeable China through-line to this user's comments to go with the Biden/Democrats through-line.
Recasting “you are in danger if you don’t do X” as someone threatening / coercing you into doing X, is one of those little skillful emotional reframings that I was talking about in my other comment. If you watch closely on Lemmy there are like 8-10 of them (all pointing in the direction of “don’t vote for Joe Biden”) that come up again and again.
"Only WE can save the country!" is very much a fascist tactic, even if it cones from blue.
Dude I literally JUST explained this, IN THE MESSAGE YOU ARE REPLYING TO.
I have no idea if the Democrats can save the country. Actually, on their own, I am pretty confident that they cannot based on the track record. I am extremely sure that Trump will do catastrophic damage to it, though, which is a different statement.
Yep. And i’m fucking sick of them. Blocking all i see. Ain’t nobody got time for fucking hillbilly polisci 101. They can argue amongst themselves about how voting works.
You shouldn’t block them. You should call them out. Every one of them. As them who they’d run in place of Biden the could win. MAKE them own up to having no solution and watch them weasel out of the discussion.
Never let up on them. Hold them to their ignorance.
Yeah, just don't have time. Besides, i’m not convinced they actually care about facts or reason. I’m sure many aren’t even American, so their hot take about Biden is - not necessary.
Oh I hardly ever do it with the idea that they’ll listen to reason. They’re not here for reason. They only want to disrupt.
I do it to make certain that they are seen for what they are. I essentially just walk them right into casting doubt on their own agenda.
Next you’re gonna tell me that engaging in rational explanations of the flaws in their viewpoint does not lead to a productive response
Look pal, I already explained how the imperialist pigdog state exploits colonial interests with teh GeNoSiDe?! You want me to blanket-characterize all armed conflict in United States of Imperial Genisode history too?!
Fine. They were all puppeteered by telepathic lizards who force us to drink Coca cola because the nanochip bitcoin represses the workers of glorious freedoms.
Which, frankly, should already have been obvious. It’s, like, so obvious omg.
Welcome to all the tankies sweeping through days after the fact and downvoting everything. You’re so much more than bots.
Yeah but did you remember to explain that Trump has a formidable stage presence and is a skilled debater?
I just like it when he speaks plainly. In circular detatched pastiches of what a normal highly unqualified person might say if they were desperate to sell you a shit sandwich. So inspiring. Bigly.
The entire point of Pied Piper strategy is to create that threat.
The fuck are you talking about?