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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Context.

Here it's being used a singular group of things.

Like, a herd of cows is a singular thing made up of lots of individual things.

If you lost 50% of the herd, you wouldn't say you had fewer herd

You'd say you have less of a herd.

But language is what we make it, it's why the rules are blurry

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Your argument is supporting the comment you're replying to. "Users" is equivalent to "cows" in your example, not "herd". If you lost 50% of the herd, you'd still have a herd of cows, but you'd have fewer cows, just like there are a lot fewer users in this instance.

Herd is closer to userbase. Lemmy has a userbase; Reddit has a userbase. Lemmy's userbase has a lot fewer users than Reddit's.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Both may be correct depending on the speaker. English has exceptions to everything... I learned that from a European.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"users" is a singular group in this context.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 5 months ago

It's not, but even if it was, the original comment would be grammatically incorrect.You wouldn't say "You have a lot less herd". "Less of a herd" would work, "Your herd is a lot smaller" would work better, but it was written originally as though 'users' was a collection of individuals, not a userbase as a singular item.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

"There are a lot fewer users" is the proper grammar. You wouldn't say "There is users online", you'd say "There are users online" because users is plural. "There is a user online" would be singular.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Here it's being used a singular group of things

It's not singular, "users" is plural. "A group of users" is singular, but "users" is referring to multiple individuals. The correct verb to use with users is are.

For example, you would be incorrect to say "There is users online", but you could say "There is a group of users online".